Gopal,

Could you add exactly that sentence as a bullet point under

Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
 1.   2.   3.

in the Wiki page above?

IMHO it is among the most important ones. I'll add a few words especially
about evangelizing and interested parties who just told me they want to
look into the project more closely.

Werner

On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 6:31 AM, Kevan Miller <[email protected]> wrote:

> The Wiki being used to prepare the June board report is here:
>
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/June2014
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 9:20 PM, Gopal Kris <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Web based interface to verify and add new device specs is what iam
> working
> > on.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On 02-Jun-2014, at 10:40 pm, Werner Keil <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Spreading the word (as one of the few at the moment) is the best thing
> > to do at the moment.
> > > If contribution via a solid Web Service or Web Based interface can't be
> > established here for DeviceMap, then I'm afraid, it's likely t fail.
> > > And for that there's always a fall-back option to OpenDDR
> > >
> > > See attempts by Stephen Colebourne to create "Apache Commons Money"
> > which failed quite miserably. So did his follow-up "JodaMoney", but he at
> > least occasionally helped a bit with a new Java Standard in this area,
> > JavaMoney.org (JSR 354). Sometimes it takes time and also exploring
> > multiple options. Let's see which one is right here
> > >
> > > Werner
> > >
> > >> On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 6:58 PM, Kevan Miller <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >> Thanks for the info.
> > >>
> > >> There may be lots of technical reasons justifying DeviceMap as
> project.
> > >> From an ASF perspective, these are secondary. Primarily, the ASF will
> > need
> > >> to see a viable DeviceMap *community*.
> > >>
> > >> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html is worth reading
> > from
> > >> time to time. And measuring where we think we are in meeting these
> > criteria.
> > >>
> > >> --kevan
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 3:35 AM, Werner Keil <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > I'd say these are only 2 very good arguments for the existence (and
> > >> > eventual graduation) of DeviceMap:
> > >> >
> > >> >
> >
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/samsung/10869294/Samsung-launches-first-open-source-Tizen-smartphone.html?bcsi-ac-95bb4efa6a1646c8=229BB80200000503pehAqDaU4KXwMGaXAhZZ60bGqOWhAAAAAwUAADJVUQAIBwAAIQAAAON6AwA=
> > >> > and
> > >> >
> > >> >
> >
> http://dashburst.com/mobile-devices-insanely-large-screens/?utm_content=bufferfa4e6&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
> > >> >
> > >> > Werner
> > >> >
> > >> > On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 2:08 AM, eberhard speer jr. <
> [email protected]
> > >
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >
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> > >> > > Hi,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > my 2 cents regarding growing the community :
> > >> > >
> > >> > > In short :
> > >> > >
> > >> > > This community is small and we see it getting smaller.
> > >> > > There some very good reasons for this (see below).
> > >> > > This will by it's nature always be a rather small specialized
> > community.
> > >> > > But the ability to identify a user-agent/device will remain a
> > >> > > fundamental thing.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Bit Longer :
> > >> > >
> > >> > > 1) The 'Frameworks' always had the edge : much closer to the
> > >> > > web-developer. DDR is HTTP-headers, back-end-y, further...far away
> > >> > > stuff and never really reached them.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > 2) "Device" is shifting. What is currently understood as a
> "device",
> > >> > > the smart-and not so-smart phones, tables, pads, phablets,... are
> > >> > > becoming more generic. Instead of long lists of esoteric
> properties,
> > >> > > it's basically back to : OS/browser/rendering-engine.
> > >> > > DDR was 'sexy' because 'mobile' was 'device'.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > 3) HTML5 : following what goes on on the WhatWg list and 'out
> there'
> > >> > > you see it becoming easier and easier to 'do mobile' -- the sexy
> > >> > > stuff, no frameworks etc.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > *But* the need for other uses stays [traffic analyses] and much
> more
> > >> > > importantly : 'device' will shift : "the Internet of
> > Things"...sounds
> > >> > > very much like "devices" to me.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Maybe the community should congratulate 'mobile' as it graduates
> > from
> > >> > > 'device', and be ready to welcome in the next 'devices'.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > esjr
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