I do not seem to have access to that wiki
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Werner Keil <[email protected]> wrote: > Gopal, > > Could you add exactly that sentence as a bullet point under > > Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation: > 1. 2. 3. > > in the Wiki page above? > > IMHO it is among the most important ones. I'll add a few words especially > about evangelizing and interested parties who just told me they want to > look into the project more closely. > > Werner > > On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 6:31 AM, Kevan Miller <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > The Wiki being used to prepare the June board report is here: > > > > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/June2014 > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 9:20 PM, Gopal Kris <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Web based interface to verify and add new device specs is what iam > > working > > > on. > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > On 02-Jun-2014, at 10:40 pm, Werner Keil <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Spreading the word (as one of the few at the moment) is the best > thing > > > to do at the moment. > > > > If contribution via a solid Web Service or Web Based interface can't > be > > > established here for DeviceMap, then I'm afraid, it's likely t fail. > > > > And for that there's always a fall-back option to OpenDDR > > > > > > > > See attempts by Stephen Colebourne to create "Apache Commons Money" > > > which failed quite miserably. So did his follow-up "JodaMoney", but he > at > > > least occasionally helped a bit with a new Java Standard in this area, > > > JavaMoney.org (JSR 354). Sometimes it takes time and also exploring > > > multiple options. Let's see which one is right here > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > >> On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 6:58 PM, Kevan Miller < > [email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > >> Thanks for the info. > > > >> > > > >> There may be lots of technical reasons justifying DeviceMap as > > project. > > > >> From an ASF perspective, these are secondary. Primarily, the ASF > will > > > need > > > >> to see a viable DeviceMap *community*. > > > >> > > > >> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html is worth reading > > > from > > > >> time to time. And measuring where we think we are in meeting these > > > criteria. > > > >> > > > >> --kevan > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 3:35 AM, Werner Keil <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > I'd say these are only 2 very good arguments for the existence > (and > > > >> > eventual graduation) of DeviceMap: > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/samsung/10869294/Samsung-launches-first-open-source-Tizen-smartphone.html?bcsi-ac-95bb4efa6a1646c8=229BB80200000503pehAqDaU4KXwMGaXAhZZ60bGqOWhAAAAAwUAADJVUQAIBwAAIQAAAON6AwA= > > > >> > and > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > http://dashburst.com/mobile-devices-insanely-large-screens/?utm_content=bufferfa4e6&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer > > > >> > > > > >> > Werner > > > >> > > > > >> > On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 2:08 AM, eberhard speer jr. < > > [email protected] > > > > > > > >> > wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > >> > > Hash: SHA1 > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Hi, > > > >> > > > > > >> > > my 2 cents regarding growing the community : > > > >> > > > > > >> > > In short : > > > >> > > > > > >> > > This community is small and we see it getting smaller. > > > >> > > There some very good reasons for this (see below). > > > >> > > This will by it's nature always be a rather small specialized > > > community. > > > >> > > But the ability to identify a user-agent/device will remain a > > > >> > > fundamental thing. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Bit Longer : > > > >> > > > > > >> > > 1) The 'Frameworks' always had the edge : much closer to the > > > >> > > web-developer. DDR is HTTP-headers, back-end-y, further...far > away > > > >> > > stuff and never really reached them. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > 2) "Device" is shifting. What is currently understood as a > > "device", > > > >> > > the smart-and not so-smart phones, tables, pads, phablets,... > are > > > >> > > becoming more generic. Instead of long lists of esoteric > > properties, > > > >> > > it's basically back to : OS/browser/rendering-engine. > > > >> > > DDR was 'sexy' because 'mobile' was 'device'. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > 3) HTML5 : following what goes on on the WhatWg list and 'out > > there' > > > >> > > you see it becoming easier and easier to 'do mobile' -- the sexy > > > >> > > stuff, no frameworks etc. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > *But* the need for other uses stays [traffic analyses] and much > > more > > > >> > > importantly : 'device' will shift : "the Internet of > > > Things"...sounds > > > >> > > very much like "devices" to me. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Maybe the community should congratulate 'mobile' as it graduates > > > from > > > >> > > 'device', and be ready to welcome in the next 'devices'. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > esjr > > > >> > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > >> > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (MingW32) > > > >> > > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - > http://www.enigmail.net/ > > > >> > > > > > >> > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJThnqJAAoJEOxywXcFLKYcRlkH/irsBE8rnMWdu2Lfqrh31IDx > > > >> > > WH7xSTdUf6i3ZJeimcig7MaLQy1G/3FR/QrmSjjwNCGo73Gq5sss6YnRLuDxwB3m > > > >> > > ZMphxb3EAV2SUsT037fnSiM+I6BFC86nWs78S6FTD9etySlT2TCjW9OUp3wwXcIB > > > >> > > //hmfmCuQT2TueOouN/Hk+RCiV3WuFW0JJ0l+MmBlMX9YgHp5Q2IxtuWegVae/Bn > > > >> > > 1jF0zKewHAgrk90K5zH6gS4S1wS1h8QFTRcfHgxhUPEkMVg+c8X8aTS9QkYFNVmY > > > >> > > VX4PC4UshrsStHVOve9lbic948qTLxBbIw5PPOapl55BXJJ/lLvfcs3ODHulLW0= > > > >> > > =qjoV > > > >> > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
