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Nobody is talking about 2 Ids or any such thing...you either refuse to
or just don't get...the rest is 'semantic' gibberish
if you can't get fundamentals like that...I despair...and I must wonder

The current Id field is not safe.
Persist if you must, but I'm not sure I can continue

esjr

> +1
> 
> As mentioned, if automated user-defined entries are added in
> future, there could be an algorithm deriving a new ID (ensuring it
> doesn't already exist in the DB) but for those entries already
> existing we should not overwrite the (usually) human-readable Id
> with another one.
> 
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Reza
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> So I think you are talking about a GUID here...
>> 
>> So is a GUID an attribute of a device? So a device has screen
>> dimensions, CPU and hardware specs, pixels, a manufacture, etc.
>> These are device attributes.
>> 
>> Is a GUID a device attribute... No. A GUID is DDR metadata. We
>> already have a metadata ID field, its called 'id'. Its human
>> readable, it links devices with their patterns and it works
>> pretty well. If you want to add a second metadata ID value, where
>> do you store it? In the device attributes? In the browser
>> attributes? In the OS attributes? Do devices, browsers, and 
>> operating systems need GUIDs and regular IDs? Or are we only
>> assigning GUIDs to devices? When do we use the ID and when do we
>> use the GUID? When (and why) would a client actually use a GUID
>> instead of the ID? How and who generates the GUID?
>> 
>> I think its best to just have 1 ID. The last thing I want is for
>> people to start associating devices, browser, and operating
>> systems by these GUIDs. IDs work fine here.
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________ From: eberhard speer jr.
>> <[email protected]> To: "'[email protected]'" < 
>> [email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014
>> 3:14 PM Subject: Re: Data 2.0 - Vocabulary Properties : ddr_ and
>> guid
>> 
>> 
> So, no one sees the sanity of having an identifier that 'travels'
> well [think http, think XML, think json...encoding] besides a 
> human-readable pseudo-identifier [common practice] ? Despite the
> fact that the DeviceMap [OpenDDR] data itself already clearly shows
> signs of having bitten by that 'bug' [barnes & noble vs. barnes and
> noble] in *non*-key data...
> 
> I am baffled.
> 
> esjr
>> 
> 

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