On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 05:59:12PM -0400, Todd Vierling wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Jul 2003, Ian Clarke wrote:
> 
> : > sigh ... JDK 1.4 is known to be simply not stable in too many situations,
> : > and I fear for the capacity of Freenet because of this move.  8-(
> :
> : We have certainly encountered some problems with it although we have
> : found workarounds - but the benefits of NIO are already showing - and we
> : have to assume that Sun will work quickly to correct their bugs (all of
> : which I hope Matthew is reporting to them ;).
> 
> That's nice, but didn't my mail note that Sun's JDK 1.4 implementation in
> general doesn't reliably "run anywhere", and that there is not much in the
> way of viable non-Sun alternatives yet?  This response pretty much brushes
> me, and many others, under the rug, assuming that Sun's "write once, run
> anywhere" promise includes the latest-and-greatest JVM features Right Now.

And what proportion of freenet nodes do you expect to run on OSs other
than Linux and Win32? We cannot afford to address all the world's
problems at once! Even the Free Software Foundation limits its goals to
Free Software (and not to world peace, for example, laudable as that
goal may be).
> 
> You apparently ignored the substantial majority of my mail, which attempted
> to address working around the issue.  I suppose that means I'll have to hang
> up my hat and access Freenet in the future from one of the publicly
> accessible https:// tunnels, until JDK 1.4 actually has market saturation
> levels of stability.  (Running an old build forever won't work for the
> obvious reason that the minimum build version gets bumped periodically.  I
> might as well give up now and spare myself the headache later.)
> 
> Does anyone know of a published (or unpublished, or even on Freenet itself)
> list of public https-fproxy and/or SSL-FCP tunnels?  I'd like to continue
> contributing to Freenet's future, even as an "outsider"....  Please make
> sure to Cc: me directly on any response, as I'm unsubscribing at this point.

I would suggest that you get involved in GCJ or Kaffe development if you
feel that strongly about it.
> 
> -- 
> -- Todd Vierling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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