Toad ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> 57.6/33kbps (good modem) is 7.2kB/sec and 4.1kB/sec.

No it's not, because of the stop, start and parity bits.  Each byte
that goes out over a modem takes *ten* bits (8 data bits, 1 start
bit, 1 stop bit at 8N1; or 7 data bits, 1 start bit, 1 stop bit and
1 parity bit at 7E1).  Also, no modem in the USA can actually achieve
56 kbps down because the phone lines are limited to something just
below that.  Also, modems can't achieve full duplex speeds; if you're
downloading at 40 kbps you cannot upload at the full 33.6 kbps.

> Also, entry level DSL here is 512/256. So there is some question over
> what is a sane level, and we can't generally expect the user to know the
> answer.

It's a very difficult issue. :-/

On a related note, it's very difficult to use firewall queueing
facilities to manage Freenet bandwidth, because by its very design
Freenet traffic tries to avoid being easily tagged.  If anyone has
any suggestions on how to tell my OpenBSD router which packets
coming from the NATted Linux box are Freenet packets, that'd be
really nice.  (Could we get Freenet to set the Evil Bit on demand?)

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