> I don't understand where is the problem. What installer are you using?

We are using Sun's installer for installing Sun Java JRE 1.4.2

> And what files from http://freenetproject.org/snapshots/ are in
> violation of Sun Microsystems'copyright?

According to the information Matthew Toseland presented, the JRE installer
(I can't remember the exact filename but it's symlinked as
jre-win32-latest.exe)
However, reading http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/jre/README suggests that
"JRE is freely distributable".

So, I don't know.

In case you're wondering why we're talking about this at all: a while ago,
we didn't mirror the Sun JRE download at freenetproject.org;  now we do
that, but apparently the reason there isn't a debian distro of freenet is
because *mirroring Sun's JRE installer is in violation of Sun's licence*. 
Or at least this is the impression I received from the previous
discussion.

So we're now discussing whether we should remove the Sun JRE download from
freenetproject.org; or whether or not this really is a violation of Sun's
licence.

Anyone: Is that *really* the reason there isn't a debian distro of
freenet?  I thought it was rather because Sun JRE was 'non free' in that
it wasn't GPL or Berkeley licenced?

d

> In the worst case you could only distribute the source code for every
> user to compile but that wouldn't be too nice because java sdk is a big
> download. You can also distribute compiled versions over freenet
> (published "anonymously" :) ) so there will be problems only for the
> first install and not for the updates (make the update program read the
> files from a SSK).

Naw, that's not what we're talking about.  Obviously The Free Net Project
is allowed to distributed its own files ... compiled, source, or
otherwise.  The problem relates to the fact that we were distributing
Sun's software (the actual Java Runtime Environment, or JRE, which
includes the Java Virtual Machine, which is essentially what enables your
computer to run programs written in Java, which includes Freenet, which is
what we're all about)

> Gcj is a solution to produce executable files...but not for some freenet
> features....probably.

Actually, we are kindof working towards a GCJ Freenet, kindof.  Ideally
we'd like to use a 'free' Java runtime but the alternatives seem to not be
as stable or fully-featured as Sun's, so we're relying on Sun JRE for now.


d
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