On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 09:55:26AM -0700, Ian Clarke wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 01:49:39PM +0100, Toad wrote:
> > > According to the information Matthew Toseland presented, the JRE installer
> > > (I can't remember the exact filename but it's symlinked as
> > > jre-win32-latest.exe)
> > > However, reading http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/jre/README suggests that
> > > "JRE is freely distributable".
> > > 
> > > So, I don't know.
> > 
> > That is NOT what the clickthrough license says when you try to actually
> > download it. We must assume the worst.
> 
> Rubbish - please stop the amature lawyering.  Where there is ambiguity 
> most courts will side with what is reasonable, and even if not, the 
> worst case scenario is that we would have to change things *after* we 
> have been notified of a problem by Sun.

Go fetch the file
http://freenetproject.org/snapshots/jre-win32-latest.exe. This is ONLY
the Java installer. It is not bundled, it can be downloaded
independantly.  It is not currently found by google, but it will be
since http://freenetproject.org/snapshots/ is reasonably well known. So
you can download the java installer *without downloading Freenet* from
our site. One of the conditions imposed by Sun was:

"and only bundled as part of, and for the sole purpose of running, your
Programs" (part of term (i) ).

Maybe it is for the sole purpose of running freenet - but it's certainly
not bundled as part of it, since you can download it separately. Unless
you convince me otherwise - and the burden of proof is on YOU, because 
you are the one taking the interpretation OF THE WORDS OF THE LICENSE 
that makes zero sense, or we produce a real bundled installer, I
will not be able to release 0.5.2.
> 
> Ian.
> 
> 
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