--- Tom Kaitchuck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 27 October 2003 09:58 pm, Toad wrote: > > > It would use a lot of RAM, and if we implemented TUKs we would never have > > > to request keys that did not exist in the first place. TUKs have other > > > advantages too. IE: Frost would only need to make a very small fraction > > > of the requests it does now. > > > > I don't see why TUKs, or even passive requests, would solve the problem > > entirely. If a large fraction of our requests won't succeed no matter > > what, that is going to have a significant effect on routing estimator > > accuracy and on our ability to gauge whether routing is working > > If we had TUKs why would we ever have a request fail for data other than: > A. It really isn't in the network. > or B. It used to be in the network and fell out. > > Frost can have each board on a SSK or 20 each with their own TUK. If the TUK > can be updated by any node that has the key, then all frost would have to do > is request the TUK. Then if that version was newer than what you have you can > request the new messages. There is no reason to try to guess keys and request > them. (The only thing I wonder about is if two node insert the same new key > at exactly the same time, and they cross paths, what would happen?)
If anyone(Frost user) can write to the TUK how is it better/different than a KSK? Has your TUK idea changed? I thought the idea was to allow more complicated signing policies for groups of people. > > (routingSuccessRatio) - this proposal gives a possible means to mitigate > > that. And I rather think it is possible to implement it using relatively > > little RAM, and to substantially reduce the RAM usage of other > > subsystems. And finally, RAM is cheap... > > OK, so maybe the overhead isn't huge. However there will be some and TUKs are > indisputably a good idea, and IMHO a much better solution. The problem the way I understand it with frost is that it tries to use freenet as a dumb DHT to build communication layer on top. You want "ACDC". Someone advertises having "ACDC". You tell him to give you "ACDC". It's all done in a series of posts and requests, which isn't pretty, but works. Seems to me that it'll be frixed someday with more passive insert/requests. Is this the main problem you're tring to solve, or is it just tons of lost CSKs? __________________________________________________________________ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Logos und Klingelt�ne f�rs Handy bei http://sms.yahoo.de _______________________________________________ Devl mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
