On Sunday 10 Mar 2013 03:33:08 Steve Dougherty wrote:
> On 03/06/2013 04:29 PM, irfan mir wrote:
> [snip]
> > This time, I made quick mock-ups that get the idea across as it
> > was brought to my attention that in the past others have provided
> > shiny designs, but not development. That made me feel sad and I
> > decided I am going to work on the interaction design and
> > development more than the visual aspects form now on and do as much
> > as I can and know how to do.
> >
> > The mockups and descriptions of what is happening are as follows:
> >
> > This is a mockups of the structure of the security setup when it
> > loads: http://cl.ly/image/0O0d0H3Z2C39
> >
> > I was thinking about changing the questions to ' I know someone
> > who runs Freenet ' and ' I use full-disk encryption ' to make it
> > more clear that checking / ticking the checkboxes answers the
> > questions. What do you think?
> 
> Sounds good to me. I appreciate the focus on getting something
> functional first - it's more immediately useful. This project has lots
> of ideas - it also needs people that can _implement_ ideas!
> 
> One thing I wonder about though is if it will be clear that this is a
> series of questions instead of requirements.
> 
> > Also, the ' question-mark icon ' in the lower-right corner of the
> > above mockup provides the user some assistance if they are
> > confused by the questions. On hover of that question-mark a tooltip
> > appears explaining that answering these questions allow for the
> > appropriate security options to be displayed and clicking goes
> > straight to all the security options.
> 
> What is your reasoning for single question mark? I would have expected
> an expandable explanation beneath each question.
> 
> > If the user leaves both checkboxes unchecked, as far as my
> > understand goes, they can only have Low Security so that is all
> > that is offered to them: http://cl.ly/image/2p2r0I0Q191I
> >
> > If the user checks one of the boxes, they get more options to
> > choose from: http://cl.ly/image/3E23290N241R
> >
> > If the user checks both boxes, they are presented with all the
> > options: http://cl.ly/image/1f1O0W3N333H
> >
> > And, lastly, upon checking or selecting one of the security
> > options, in this case ' Low Security ', input-fields appear
> > underneath for the users to entre their security preferences:
> > http://cl.ly/image/3J2h0n081732
> 
> This looks like asking questions in addition to the security level
> selection. What I was proposing was asking questions instead of the
> security level selection. It seems like it would guide someone through
> the decision process more, and the question explanations should be
> able to make clear the implications of each choice.
> 
> ---
> 
> 1) I know someone who runs Freenet.
> 
> If you already know someone who runs Freenet, and are pretty sure
> they're not malicious or incapable of securing their computer, it's a
> good idea to connect directly to them as a "friend connection." Using
> entirely friend connections provides much higher security as it makes
> it more difficult for malicious people to join the immediate network,
> and it removes dependence on Freenet Project volunteers' central
> servers for finding initial connections.
> 
> (Can in the future offer to take a one-sided invitation from another
> node or groups of nodes. Is it useful to take noderefs now in that
> it'll be easier to have the currently installing node operator just
> have to share their reference?)

In future we will have invites, which will include multiple noderefs, yes.

I guess we want a form to upload an invite if we have one already? In some 
cases we will provide an installer complete with noderef but this may not 
always happen...
> 
> 2) I am willing to connect to untrusted strangers.
> 
> If you don't know around three to five people who run Freenet already,
> it won't be enough to connect only to friends. As a less secure
> convenience, Freenet Project volunteers run servers which help in
> gaining initial connections. While convenient for you, it's also
> convenient for malicious people as they can track activity more easily.
> 
> (Low or normal network security.)

Right. Even if you have an invite, you may want to choose normal anyway for 
better performance. If you don't have an invite you need normal.
> 
> 3) I prefer extreme network security at the expense of even more speed.
> 
> Freenet shares network information with other computers it connects
> with to improve performance. Even though this information is limited
> and almost always safe to share, in extreme cases you may want to not
> share it to gain more network security at a significant cost in
> performance.
> 
> (Maximum network security. Requires #1. How best to show this? Does it
> appear under #1 only when #1 is checked?)

I don't see why we need to ask about maximum. We don't at the moment, unless 
you choose custom.
> 
> 4) I use full-disk encryption.
> 
> Network security does not mean that if your computer is taken that
> your information is protected. Full-disk encryption encrypts all
> information on your hard disk, including operating system files, and
> requires that some kind of credentials be provided when the computer
> is turned on. The Freenet Project strongly recommends you use
> full-disk encryption, but can provide some encryption of its own.
> 
> ("None" physical security.)

I have my doubts about whether we should ask about this. I guess it's a 
usability vs performance tradeoff. How much of a cost is always encrypting temp 
files?
> 
> 5) I am very concerned that my computer may be seized.
> 
> As an extreme measure, Freenet can keep all information in temporary
> memory (though it cannot guarantee that the operating system will not
> write it to disk) in the hope that if the computer is turned off any
> compromising information will be lost.
> 
> (Maximum physical security.)

Currently we only ask about physical security if the user selects HIGH 
initially. It's a simple LOW/HIGH choice. We need to keep it as simple as 
possible, but not so simple that people don't understand.
> 
> ---
> 
> Are there any more questions that occur to people? I don't think the
> current questions on physical security are enough, but I'm not sure
> what else to ask. Maybe radio buttons between different levels of
> machine seizure concern?
> 
> Then it needs a mapping from different sets of answers to security
> settings, but at least it has created what is hopefully a less
> daunting and more interactive setup.
> 
> Steve

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