On Friday, September 19, 2014 10:03:29 PM Steve Dougherty wrote:
> > Also, is this usable for plugins, too?
> 
> It seems desirable to have it generic enough to do so, but I'm not sure
> it's in the initial scope.

We've had 2 continuous WOT builds fail to be released due to issues which were 
not detected during testing but only when you tried to deploy them.
This sounds like the manual JAR ZIPs I publish don't get enough testers :|
(and like I should setup a compilation environment similar to the release 
environment you use :| Sorry for not having done that yet.)

Also, I'm increasingly feeling like having to deal with plugin deployment is 
too much of a burden for you, and I don't want to stress you with it. 
Especially now that the release cycle of WOT will be much shorter since 
everyone was so unhappy about the huge delays.

So it would be really nice if update channels included plugins.

Fred should then offer some configuration like this:

> Get updates from:
> ( ) The main official stable Freenet repository
> (*) Testing releases from developer xor

This would allow me to publish pre-releases to a wider audience, and cause you 
to have less hassle.

It should include the opportunity for me to:

- update not only WOT but also everything else: I sometimes do file fred pull 
request. Also, once the WOT-performance mess has been resolved, I should not 
just consider my job as "WOT maintainer" but "client-application maintainer", 
and thus deal with other plugins as well. We should really get all WOT-based 
plugins official ASAP then! :)

- if I don't have the setup to compile every fred release and every plugin, it 
should be possible to ask me to have it fall-back to the official update 
channel for stuff which I don't compile myself. This is crucial as the 
development environments are very different among all the plugins and it can 
cost a lot of time to be able to figure out each one's dependencies.


Anyway, overall you applying the word "burnout" to yourself recently, even if 
it was joined with something like "before I burn out", sounds very alarming; 
so if you do someday again feel like writing code, you might write the update 
channels stuff first to give yourself the chance to get rid of the boring 
plugin hassle :)
Meanwhile, please relax first! :)


Greetings and thanks for your tremendous efforts,
        xor

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