I'm reluctant to forward the email to the list because it's an invite
-only event... but I'll forward it to Arne.

I'd like to go too; I'm trying to work out whether I can fit it in my
work schedule.

Florent

On Wed, 2015-09-09 at 01:02 +0000, Ian wrote:
> I agree with Arne and disagree with Markus.  The worst possible way 
> to deal
> with politicians is to not talk to them.
> 
> It might be unpopular to say, but in my experience most politicians 
> are
> smart, and genuinely want to do the right thing, but they're 
> frequently
> misinformed because they're only exposed to lobbyists who know 
> exactly how
> to work the system, and the lobbyists win if there is no voice to 
> oppose
> them.  People don't enter politics to get rich, not in the EU anyway.
> 
> Arne, it would be really great if you could go, please let me know if 
> there
> is anything I can do to help.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 6:15 PM Arne Babenhauserheide <arne_...@web.de
> >
> wrote:
> 
> > Am Dienstag, 8. September 2015, 19:50:22 schrieb Markus:
> > > I would like to suggest to never ever visit politicians.
> > 
> > I disagree with that. We cannot win on purely technical grounds —
> > states (or big companies) could just ban all encryption. But 
> > technical
> > means can create a situation in which those politicians who are on 
> > the
> > side of free communication can win the political battle against
> > surveillance.
> > 
> > Best wishes,
> > Arne
> > --
> > A man in the streets faces a knife.
> > Two policemen are there it once. They raise a sign:
> > 
> >     “Illegal Scene! Noone may watch this!”
> > 
> > The man gets robbed and stabbed and bleeds to death.
> > The police had to hold the sign.
> > 
> > …Welcome to Europe, citizen. Censorship is beautiful.
> > 
> >    ( http://draketo.de/stichwort/censorship )
> > 
> > 
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