On 28/10/15 10:51, Florent Daigniere wrote:
> On Tue, 2015-10-27 at 21:47 +0100, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
>> Am Sonntag, 25. Oktober 2015, 15:13:06 schrieb Matthew Toseland:
>>> I disagree. We should take reasonable steps to avoid breaking
>>> unofficial
>>> plugins, but we shouldn't let it cripple us. We are not Microsoft.
>>> And
>>> db4o is unmaintained upstream...
>>
>> Let’s avoid doing another “hey, we’re growing again, how about
>> breaking people’s setup?” ← we already did that a few times. It was
>> pretty frustrating.
>>
>> There’s no gain from removing db4o except for ideological pureness,
>> which has no value for our users.
>>
> 
> More software -> more maintenance burden -> more bugs -> less time
> spent on fixing things users actually use.
> 
> What's the part you don't understand?
> 
> Right now, keeping db4o means headaches with packaging and build-system 
> integration. It's one of the few dependencies we have that uses
> Maven...
> 
> Nobody is happy with it; the ideology purists, the packagers nor the
> people who actually use it (xor's plugins). They all want change
> (removal or upgrade depending on who you ask); unless you volunteer to
> handle the actual changes, I'm not sure I understand why you'd get a
> vote on what will happen.
> 

FWIW scrapping db4o will also help the debian package actually enter Debian at 
some point - it's one less dependency to have to bundle (and argue with the FTP 
masters about).

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