fwiw github appears to support markdown mediawiki and a few others: https://github.com/github/markup
On 10/08/16 11:00, Dean Shannon wrote: > My 2 cents... > > The wiki is definitely one of the most important places to find > information in any project. I think it would be a major boost to the > freenet project to have a nice functional wiki. > > On 10/08/16 08:53, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: >> >> Ian writes: >> >>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 2:52 PM, Arne Babenhauserheide <arne_...@web.de> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I don’t think that’s a fair assessment — Mediawiki syntax is pretty >>>> decent and nicely full-featured — and I don’t think that markup matters >>>> that much in this. Markdown is nice, but the difference isn’t that big >>>> (I used to think different but changed my stance with experience). >>>> >>>> Transitioning simply is a lot of very boring work, and there are lots of >>>> corner cases which don’t work by default. >>> >>> I acknowledge that it might not be easy, but you acknowledge that we didn't >>> even complete the last wiki migration. Github is easy to use, and its wiki >>> syntax is very familiar to people. I think that will be a better place for >>> us to be ultimately. I really dislike the idea of us running our own web >>> servers, we're just begging to be hacked or to hit a scalability wall. >>> > > I agree with ian here, github is familiar to everyone at the project and > has a fairly easy workflow. I think a project which is occasionally > broke should avoid any extra cost eg hosting as much as possible. It > should be noted that I do not claim to an expert in any wiki languages > so the technical debate is out of my scope. > >>> If volunteers are unwilling to do it, then we could pick the most important >>> pages and pay someone to migrate them. People competent in that kind of >>> work can be hired quite cheaply. >> >> If we only needed to port a few "most important pages", transitioning >> wouldn’t be an issue. But we have a wiki. That’s not some kind of PR >> page but a knowledge base with a lot of information about many different >> parts of Freenet. >> >> Also Mediawiki syntax is just as familiar to people as Markdown — rather >> more so. >> >> I don’t know what is there to acknowledge from my side about not >> completing the last transition. I put it up, and it would be strange if >> I were to acknowledge my own argument. >> >> To say more clearly why it’s an argument: It still happens from time to >> time that information which was in the old wiki is needed but not >> available in the new wiki. Every incomplete transition throws away >> information our users and potential developers need. If there’s no one >> who pledges to transition the whole wiki — and has a history of >> delivering on his or her pledges — then a transition to a new wiki is a >> recipe for failure. We’d either lose important information or we’d have >> two Wikis to maintain. >> >> That’s it. I gave my arguments. I won’t argument this further. We’re >> moving in circles and different from the website where I said "not now" >> and not "we should not", I won’t start seeing a wiki transition as >> useful just because arguments are repeated. >> >> As long as there is no one who pledges to transition the whole wiki and >> has a history of delivering on his or her pledges, transitioning the wiki >> is a dumb idea. >> > > Ive wanted to help with the wiki for a while now but hit a technical > wall once I started considering it and read the notes that a copy/paste > transition was not ideal. I did not understand freenet internals well > enough to migrate it properly. > > I still would like to help but I do not have time for a full transition > (I work full time and am at uni part time). I can see Arnes argument > that 3 partial transitions obviously makes it harder for anybody to find > anything. > > Maybe we could set up a small team of volunteers to migrate it? Would > anyone be keen? I think a copy/paste initial transition would be the > only way to get started ie theres just too much info and it appears that > only toad actually understands it all > > Thoughts? > > Dean (rdrofthestorm on github) > _______________________________________________ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
