On 2016-12-18 12:38, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
ban...@openmailbox.org writes:

On 2016-12-17 19:01, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
What I forgot to ask: Do you have information about Users for whom the
Freenet friend-to-friend mode is blocked? This is similar to hidden
bridges, and the Freenet protocol is not trivial to detect.

I don't have literature I can refer to in Freenet's specific case but
unless Freenet is capable of morphing its protocol to resemble other
whitelisted ones it would be trivial to fingerprint and block with
Deep

With a whitelist which only allows TCP or unencrypted UDP that would be
easy, yes. Are real whitelists used against Tor?

Yes and they've gone beyond that for a while now. China is using active probing to attempt recognize suspected bridges using obfuscated protocols by speaking like them. To defeat this attack Tor bridges switched to relying on distributing shared secrets to bridge users - without it there is no reply given to probes, foiling that technique.


Packet Inspection (feel free to correct me). Also I'm speaking about
connections in pure F2F mode because an adversary can easily build an IP
blacklist by trawling Opennet.

In this pure F2F mode is similar to hidden bridges in Tor, yes. If you
want to escape IP blacklisting, you can create a pure F2F node and
connect that to a hybrid node (Opennet + F2F). That way the pure F2F
node will not have its IP exposed without full traffic analysis
(blocking everyone who communicates with known Freenet nodes — but this
method would block Tor as well).

Yes. That's why unknown IPs are not enough they need to be combined with obfuscated protocols to bypass the GFW.


Providing Freenet itself as a signed deb is on the roadmap, but not yet
done. The main problem in the past was that some of our requirements
were unavailable in Debian.

What I meant a standalone .deb we can drop in our repo since I know that putting a package into Debian is unrealistic with your rapid dev cycle.

So a .deb which just installs Freenet with all its dependencies provided
in freenet-ext.jar just like the standalone installer does it?

Exactly yes.


https://mirrorer.alioth.debian.org/

I just checked this, but the howto and manual were unavailable.

Did they move to a new place?

Hm. Not sure whats happened. I can see the How-To and the manual though
the latter is sprinkled with HTML tags.

That’s strange — do you mean this URL?
https://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=mirrorer/reprepro.git%3ba=blob_plain%3bhb=HEAD%3bf=docs/short-howto

It just gives me

    404 - No such project

Ah ok. Please try:

sudo apt-get install reprepro yelp
yelp man:reprepro


Best wishes,
Arne
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