> > That's one way to do permission based e-mail. You can also do > > cryptographically signed messages with a white list. It's simpler and will > > in practice be about as effective and less of a pain to use. It's similar > > to the way that private mailing lists stop spam except better because > > addresses can't be spoofed as they can in normal e-mail. > But that doesnt stop spam. You still have to check a possibly spammable > keyspace.
A whitelist effectively stops spam. You have to check a possibly spammable keyspace, spam can be removed from it mechanically. Think cash requires this as well. It just uses a token instead of a signature as the credential which it checks when removing spam. > > 3) Human filtering of spam. Not relevant for e-mail, but relevant for > > newsgroups and mailing lists. It works on normal moderated newsgroups > > today. > My discussion specifically involved ways to eliminate or vastly reduce > spam. Yes, human filtering eliminates spam for the users of a list/group. _______________________________________________ Devl mailing list Devl at freenetproject.org http://lists.freenetproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devl >From - Wed May 2 08:53:46 2001 Return-Path: <devl-admin at freenetproject.org> Received: from hawk.freenetproject.org (postfix@[4.18.42.11]) by funky.danky.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA04079 for <danello at danky.com>; Tue, 1 May 2001 23:51:33 -0400 Received: from hawk.freenetproject.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hawk.freenetproject.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AC4658128; Tue, 1 May 2001 21:32:02 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: devl at freenetproject.org Received: from snorkel.uits.indiana.edu (snorkel.uits.indiana.edu [129.79.6.186]) by hawk.freenetproject.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 541DB58122 for <devl at freenetproject.org>; Tue, 1 May 2001 21:31:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obsidian.dtdns.net (mail at wi-82-133.willkie.indiana.edu [149.159.82.133]) by snorkel.uits.indiana.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1/IUPO) with ESMTP id f424QT630346 for <devl at freenetproject.org>; Tue, 1 May 2001 23:26:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from scgmille by obsidian.dtdns.net with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14uoDc-0008Kj-00 for <devl at freenetproject.org>; Tue, 01 May 2001 23:26:28 -0500 To: devl at freenetproject.org Subject: Re: [freenet-devl] FCP Layer #3: Stacks Message-ID: <20010501232628.A32016 at indiana.edu> References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0105010027160.11646-100000 at kayak.charm.net> <Pine.OSF.4.33.0105010006550.22403-100000 at moe.cc.utexas.edu> <20010501093706.A1240 at indiana.edu> <20010501173527.A901 at execpc.com> <20010501164546.B5884 at indiana.edu> <20010501232954.A1074 at execpc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.17i In-Reply-To: <20010501232954.A1074 at execpc.com>; from bemann at execpc.com on Tue, May 01, 2001 at 11:29:54PM -0400 From: "Scott G. Miller" <scgmi...@indiana.edu> Sender: devl-admin at freenetproject.org Errors-To: devl-admin at freenetproject.org X-BeenThere: devl at freenetproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.3 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: devl at freenetproject.org List-Help: <mailto:devl-request at freenetproject.org?subject=help> List-Post: <mailto:devl at freenetproject.org> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freenetproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devl>, <mailto:devl-request at freenetproject.org?subject=subscribe> List-Id: Discussion of information related to Freenet development <devl.freenetproject.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freenetproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devl>, <mailto:devl-request at freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/> Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 23:26:28 -0500 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-UIDL: 3adbdd6c00000348 Status: O Content-Length: 1510 Lines: 49 --ikeVEW9yuYc//A+q Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >=20 > So how are you going to do "think cash" in a way that: >=20