On Sun, Nov 11, 2001 at 12:43:27PM -0600, Mark J Roberts wrote:
> Ian Clarke:
> > 0.4 is working well surprisingly well despite a number of serious
> > outstanding bugs.
> 
> There are under a dozen nodes. Sometimes I suspect there are on
> average two to three working nodes at any time.

That is certainly possible, but unlikely, since there are probably about
10 working Freesites in Freenet right now, and many more users of Frost,
each of which is probably running their own node.  There is probably a
small number of nodes right now, but this is more likely to worsen
functionality, not make it better.  The core problem is really that of
obtaining enough working seednodes, in addition to the datastore bug and
some IBM JVM issues.

> Well, Mr. Founder and Coordinator, I guess I can't stop you from
> lying to the users by pretending 0.4 is polished already. How many
> of them will refuse to install the next supposedly stable release?

MJR, sometimes you really come across as an immature script-kiddie who
thinks it is cool to be abrasive.  When I read insulting crap like that
it only reinforces that opinion.  What part of "we would obviously
document them as known bugs with the release" constitutes "lying to the
users"?

> Yeah, it's amazing how smart people can ignore that intractable
> anonymous flooding problem and design vulnerable systems.

Yeah, it is amazing how my estimation of someone can drop so much with
just one email.  If you see problems with software like Frost why don't
you help them fix it rather than just heckling from the peanut gallery.
At least Jan-Thomas has got off his arse and is actually trying to do
something useful.

Ian.

-- 
Ian Clarke                                        ian at freenetproject.org
Founder & Coordinator, The Freenet Project    http://freenetproject.org/
Chief Technology Officer, Uprizer Inc.           http://www.uprizer.com/
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