----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J Roberts" <[email protected]> To: <devl at freenetproject.org> Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [freenet-devl] State of Freenet #2
> Ian Clarke: > > 0.4 is working well surprisingly well despite a number of serious > > outstanding bugs. > > There are under a dozen nodes. Sometimes I suspect there are on > average two to three working nodes at any time. > > So 0.4 works surprisingly well in that peculiar sense of the word > "works" that means "has never been tested but nevertheless is > exceptionally troublesome". > > > My feeling is that once the datastore corruption bug is fixed, we should > > do a release of 0.5. Oskar believes that there are still other bugs > > however doing a wider release will help us to track down and eliminate > > these bugs (which, despite administering several Freenet nodes on both > > Linux and Windows, I have never seen). We would obviously document them > > as known bugs with the release. > > Well, Mr. Founder and Coordinator, I guess I can't stop you from > lying to the users by pretending 0.4 is polished already. How many > of them will refuse to install the next supposedly stable release? > 16%? 32%? 64%? wow, take a chill pill man, Thats the standard way of a windows release, ie:the 98 beta got 98 working enough to boot, the release of 98 everyone bought was the "field test", and then windows update combined with 98se(se = all the patches from windows update preinstalled), was the fix to make 98 more stable Ian's thoughts on this are well thought out and intelligent, he's not lying to the users, he said we would document any bugs, as in the windows kb devoted to this. In all, a release which documents known bugs, works enough to use it and track down any other bugs, would be smart and efficent, it would find most bugs quickly because of the relatively large userbase compared to the developers, and it would stop the forward momentum from stalling. Of course if i knew java i'd be creating something similar to ie's "ie has caused a crash, can we send debug info for anyalisis?" fault catcher. ok not many people would, but if you showed them what you wanted to send and it was enough for the developers without revelaing anything private, it would probably speed things up more instead of the usual "report bug/request logs/response/request more data/response/locate bug/fix bug/download fix" type path. > > > One of the most amazing things I have seen is third-party clients such > > as Frost (http://jtcfrost.sf.net/) which allow messages to be sent > > through Freenet, much like Usenet, and which works extremely well, in > > fact, the Frost message boards are busier than these mailing lists at > > the moment! I suggest everyone checks it out. > > Yeah, it's amazing how smart people can ignore that intractable > anonymous flooding problem and design vulnerable systems. Its amazing how far up someone's ass a bug can crawl. Have a nice day :) > > _______________________________________________ > Devl mailing list > Devl at freenetproject.org > http://lists.freenetproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devl > _______________________________________________ Devl mailing list Devl at freenetproject.org http://lists.freenetproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devl
