On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 09:18:50PM +0100, Michael Schierl wrote:
> hi matthew,
> 
> Matthew Toseland schrieb:
> > > Another idea. Or switching it on automatically, if you have as many
> > > failures that you cannot complete the file and no successful block.
> >
> > I don't get it.
> 
> set paranoid checking to true. try to dl the splitfile.
> 
> if it fails because there were too few blocks decodable, and if there
> was no single block decodable, retry with paranoia off.
With any splitfile inserted with FIW, all the blocks will be regarded as
corrupted.
> 
> > Um... there is no datastore bug.
> 
> Where do you know that from? At least there is a heisenbug, and as a bug
> alone cannot survive, there must be another one, the datastore bug.
> However, for some reason it cannot live in native datastores. ;-)
Hehe.
> 
> > > > I understand mihi is frustrated, but the idea of trying to support 
> > > > splitfiles
> > > > with metadata is just wrong.  There is no reason to do it.
> > >
> > > Okay, you have the list of sites in my previous post. Download all
> > > splitfiles of them and reinsert them properly with at least HTL 20 onto
> > > your site. (that will also help the original authors, as they get
> > > KeyCollisions for the blocks when FIW is fixed.) When you are finished,
> > > come again and say "no reason" again.
> >
> > Mostly, this would be illegal.
> 
> Why? Does GJ live in a country where free speech is not permitted? 
Sorry, I misread. Most splitfiles inserted with FIW are likely to be
illegal. But a site with lots of legal splitfiles for testing purposes
is a useful thing, thanks.
> 
> > > > It is hard and it complicates the code.
> > >
> > > ignoring it and swithcing all specialties off should not be the problem.
> > > Simply show a warning in the UI then...
> 
> > Uh huh. "Freenet may cause the file to be corrupted. We cannot do
> > anything about this because the FIW author won't change one line of
> > code.".
> 
> LOL, if you want to, write that text in. you might do
> 
> s/code./code and we don't wanna add a workaround for a tool that is only
> used for 53% of all new freesites./
> 
> and no, i don't believe the percentage is right, but it would fit the
> style (exaggeration). 
Hey, we almost completely ignore Frost, mostly because they completely
ignore us (thankfully this is changing... there is a beta with FEC
support), despite the fact that Frost comprizes a LOT of freenet
traffic, probably more than the whole freenet web put together (the
spikes at 2k, 16k, 256k in your datastore are Frost, mostly).
> 
> you could also write:
> "this splitfile uses a deprecated format, and so it is impossible both
> to verify its integrity and to heal it."
> 
> however, I *will* change it, i promise. But y'know, there are priorities
> for me. I don't get any cent (neither dollar cent nor euro cent) for my
> work on FIW.
Yeah. The incentive is purely that the splitfiles it inserts will work
significantly better through healing.
> 
> > > And fixing the code does not help for the freesites that are already
> > > inserted.
:)
> 
> I'm leaving that quoted here.
> 
> mihi
> 

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