On Wed, 30 Apr 2003, Ian Clarke wrote:

> So, after looking at people's comments on this issue - how about this as 
> a way forward:
> 
> We make our policy to select the gateway pages on the basis of how 
> effectively they provide a starting point in the Freenet network, and on 
> that basis alone - however, we request that any page we link to spare 
> the user from any "Adult" content unless they have specifically 
> requested that they see it by clicking on an "Adult" link.  We make it 
> clear, however, that we are not making this request under threat of 
> removal from the Gateway page.

This sounds to me like the most sensible way.  We should make you some 
kind of leader or something, Ian.

In my own words:

1) We make a policy.  Gateway pages should be selected according to:
   a) Objectively: they must not, themselves, have illegal things
   b) Subjectively: they should provide an effective starting point

2) We publish the policy.  Write it up, make it clear, stick to it.

Concerning making the policy, it's a matter of what's in the interest of 
The Freenet Project.  First, I would replace your "Adult", Ian, with 
"illegal things".  I don't see any problem with linking to illegal things, 
it's *having* the illegal things that matters.  Making the policy would 
also consist of coming up with some reasonable definition of "illegal", 
"have", so on.  Devl-cloud input good.

As for publishing the policy, post it to devl when it's finalized.  Let it 
be On The Record.  Better yet, I really like the idea somebody had (who 
was that?) of creating a CHK freesite.  Basically, just take the gateway 
page links and put them on to their own page.  Then you could include all 
the disclaimers (may be illegal, may be offensive, we won't hold your hand 
from now on, blah blah) and the policy on that page.  Then, the CHK is the 
the only link from the gateway page.  The only people affected would be 
new users (curious reporters, blood-thirsty law enforcement, unsuspecting 
grandmas).  If you know what you want and you're able to handle it, you 
can add your own bookmarks to the gateway page.  It's kind of like the 
disclaimer that pops up the first time you use Freenet with Internet 
Explorer.  (Or has that been removed now?)  The CHK goes away after you 
gain the minimum of competence necessary to make it go away.  If the 
person has gotten this far, then The Freenet Project can't reasonably be 
held responsible.

Oh, one more thing.

> We make it clear, however, that we are not making this request under
> threat of removal from the Gateway page.

If we make it clear we're not going to enforce the policy, then why make 
the policy?  Perhaps I misunderstood the above statement.

-todd
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