Ian Clarke wrote:

>>i know you will be *shocked* to hear me say this, but I think that's 
>>kind of silly.  it seems pretty obvious to me that nothing is going to 
>>be changed.
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>Firstly, at what point did I say that not doing anything was not an 
>option?  Secondly, making a request to freesite authors is hardly
>"not doing anything".
>

you may feel like this has done somehting, but if this is the extent of 
your action, then in *reality* you have done nothing.  you are still 
linking to the same sites which have all the same issues you wanted to 
address from the start. 

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>  
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>> as cofe has made it abundantly clear, he's gone over all 
>>arguments about linking child porn and arrived at his personal opinion 
>>to keep things the way they are right now...
>>    
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>Not necessarily, if you look at today's CofE he is clearly considering
>alternatives.
>

ian, read it again, he says very clearly that he is not going to change 
TFE at all:

"My suggestion is of course by no means the only possible solution, and 
I encourage the debate to continue. Removing a direct TFE link from the 
gateway will *not* cause me to stop updating it. So don't let that 
concern be a barrier to change. Although do be aware that I will also 
not be changing TFE in any way simply to ensure it does get a permanent 
gateway link under any new stricter linking regime."


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>>so why did you bring this up if only to leave things unchanged? 
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>To find out what people's opinions were - why else?
>

what else?  well, i was hoping you might first find out what other 
people opinions are, and second then DO something. i dont see the point 
of this whole thread if it was really just to find out where we all 
stand unless there was an implicit action behind the discussion.

issuing a utterly ineffectual statement like "please dont link to child 
porn... it wont effect your listing on the freent gateway, but please 
dont" just doesnt count as an effective action in my book, as is proven 
by cofe's statements.

-josh

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