Unfortunately Frost's userbase isn't very well represented on these  
lists from what I have seen.  Someone should ask this on a Frost board.

Ian.

On 18 Nov 2005, at 15:27, Ed Tomlinson wrote:

> Hi,
>
> In my case Fproxy is more important.  I never found frost that  
> effective.
>
> Ed
>
> On Friday 18 November 2005 16:36, Matthew Toseland wrote:
>> Which of these is more important?
>> - SSKs -> minimal FCPv2 -> working frost boards, and maybe working  
>> frost
>>   filesharing too. (splitfiles work right now)
>> - Manifests -> SSKs -> Fproxy (with initially command line site  
>> insert).
>> - Opennet support.
>> - Ability to fetch logs from nodes...
>>
>> Current issues:
>> 1. We need money. Fast.
>> One way to get this is to get some general enthusiasm amongst the
>> Freenet userbase. Another is to get some amongst the slashdot crowd.
>> Either way, we need more people on the network, and we need more  
>> apps.
>> 2. We need more nodes. We need more people on the network.
>> Problems:
>> a) To debug properly, I need people to be online when their node
>>    is, so they can send me their logs if I want them. Possible  
>> fix: Make
>>    the node automatically send me logs if I ask for it; minimal  
>> testnet
>>    support. Then we can have all nodes online more or less  
>> permanently.
>> b) Can just ask for more testers. (Come to #freenet-alphatest on
>>    irc.freenode.net if you want in!)
>> c) Opennet is a possibility, but we don't want to have opennet  
>> support
>>    before we have shown that the darknet can vaguely work, and  
>> finished
>>    with the datastore format changes. Opennet is much less tested
>>    theoretically than darknet.
>> 3. We need apps.
>> a) Frost. If I implement SSKs, then a minimal FCP, then Frost should
>>    just about work, once it is rewritten a bit.
>> b) Fproxy. If I implement SSKs, and manifests, then I can implement
>>    Fproxy, with sites initially being inserted through the command  
>> line
>>    interface.
>>
>> IMHO it is not yet time for opennet support, as we haven't finished
>> playing with the datastore...
>>
>> The current testnet is very small.
>


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