On Wednesday 26 November 2008 00:26, Florent Daigni?re wrote:
> * Zero3 <zero3 at zerosplayground.dk> [2008-11-26 00:08:17]:
> 
> > Matthew Toseland skrev:
> > >> An 
> > >> installer that works on all three platforms has many advantages, but
> > >> will never be as smooth or intuitive as platform-specific installers
> > >> because people have differing expectations of each platform.  For
> > >> example, Windows users tend to expect a Wizard-style installer.  Mac
> > >> users expect a DMG containing an executable App that they can drag to
> > >> their Applications folder.  Linux users expect to be able to use
> > >> apt-get, yum, or something else depending on their specific distro.
> > >>     
> > >
> > > Unless their specific distro happens to be unsupported. Which is common, 
> > > because the distro market is still extremely fragmented. Hence we need a 
good 
> > > GUI installer even for linux. No?
> > >   
> > deb and rpm probably covers most of the GUI distros. The "Alien" program 
can convert packages to various other formats if needed.
> 
> That's not proper packaging.

It should be possible to provide a .deb which is usable on all debian and 
ubuntu variants, no?

I dunno whether we'll need a separate rpm for fedora vs suse.

We already have a gentoo ebuild.
> 
> > >> Next, we must identify anything that can be improved in Freenet that
> > >> would make writing these installers easier.
> > >
> > > IMHO moving the "wizard" part into the node itself was an important step 
in 
> > > the right direction. We could move the rest into the node by always 
> > > downloading the plugins and seednodes file in the installer, and asking 
the 
> > > user about the plugins during the post-install wizard. Ideally we'd also 
ask 
> > > the user about auto-start in the post-install wizard (defaulting on but 
> > > executing a script to turn it off if the user asks us to).
> > >   
> > I agree. It doesn't seem like that big of a task to move the rest of the 
> > stuff into the wizard (now you already have the framework).
> 
> Putting stuffs in the wizard goes against the packaging logic. On debian
> you would want to use debconf to ask the user on how to configure his
> node...

On Windows it makes sense, doesn't it? Well, mostly because we want to 
minimise the amount of Windows-specific code we maintain... ideally the 
installer would configure Freenet...
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