On Wednesday 22 April 2009 14:06:48 Romain Dalmaso wrote:
> Wouldn't IRC/Jabber break anonymity ?
> 
> Or, maybe you're speaking of IRC/Jabber over Freenet and i'm wrong ...

We are talking about getting darknet connections via IRC, and yes, there is a 
tradeoff. However, sending darknet refs via email or IM is also detectable 
unless you encrypt the mails; the only means that is really safe is swapping 
them on USB keys in person.
> 
> On 4/22/09, Matthew Toseland <toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> wrote:
> > On Wednesday 22 April 2009 13:53:45 Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
> >> Am Mittwoch 22 April 2009 14:38:29 schrieb Matthew Toseland:
> >> > > other member of the group as freenet friends, or should they only 
have
> >> > > their closest contacts?
> >> >
> >> > I don't know. IMHO 150 is probably too much, have you spoken privately
> >> > to
> >> > all these people?
> >>
> >> I think all people I know privately, including school and university,
> > account
> >> for maybe 100 to 120 people. Of them I'd trust about 40 as connections :)
> >>
> >> If I add people I only know via email, these numbers go up to maybe
> >> 150/50.
> >
> > IMHO that would be great - any of the above figures - especially when you
> > take
> > into account uptime problems. Practically speaking most people you know
> > won't
> > run Freenet. However, all the members of a mailing list or a university
> > department isn't quite the same thing - 150 people for just one group, 
plus
> > all the other groups and people...
> >>
> >> > > If they should have more contacts, we'll need stronger friend
> > interaction
> >> > > features, so we can keep the cost for social interaction with friends
> >> > > low.
> >> >
> >> > We need stronger friend interaction features full stop.
> >>
> >> How about a shoutbox as first step?
> >>
> >> There you can send messages to all your contacts.
> >>
> >> Naturally each shoutbox will have different entries, so it's no real 
chat,
> >>
> > but
> >> at least it would allow giving quick status messages (that's the main
> >> communication i did: "Sorry, my box was down for a day - I'm up again" :)
> >
> > Well, you can check the box next to each peer ... but yes we should 
improve
> > this. This might be related to vive's student's task?
> >>
> >> > > A Jabber server which automatically adds all friends as contacts 
would
> >> > >
> > be
> >> > > an option, I think.
> >> >
> >> > Hmmm perhaps.
> >>
> >> It would also add better information about online contacts - directly in
> >> the
> >> multi-messenger people use anyways.
> >>
> >> Maybe it could even get control features, like the jabber server from
> >> livejournal (you can post LJ entries via jabber).
> >>
> >> Another option would be IRC :)
> >>
> >> But both have the drawback of drawing people away from the webinterface,
> > which
> >> increases the maintenance cost for toad.
> >
> > Not sure I follow.
> >>
> >> Best wishes,
> >> Arne
> >
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