On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Evan Daniel <evanbd at gmail.com> wrote:
> There are two independent issues, here: converting to MediaWiki, and > hosting the wiki. I got tired of waiting on the latter to start on > the former. I'm serious about moving the wiki: it should be easy, and > I would have no objections. > Well, the obvious thing would be to host it on Emu, I was under the vague impression that this was the plan but I must confess that I wasn't paying close attention to that discussion. > I'm not telling you you're wrong; I'm sure you really did have trouble > logging in. A simple observation would have been something along the > lines of "My OpenID login doesn't work; this makes the wiki unviewable > for me, which is obviously bad." Your post was not that. And so far, > this is the first I've heard about your problem. Can you log in to SF > at all, or is it just a wiki problem? Have you followed the steps > bback suggested? > It seems that the problem was caused by the 'https' URL, rather than 'http'. It still demonstrates poor website design on the part of sourceforge though. > What I got mad about was that you were complaining about a solution to > a problem (the current wiki being badly organized, spammed, and > basically unmaintained), without offering anything that could remotely > be construed as a constructive suggestion. It is entirely legitimate to report a problem without necessarily having the solution. Would you prefer that people only report the bugs that they themselves know how to fix? You'll find that few projects operate that way, and with good reason. Pointing out a problem is a useful act, even if its not accompanied by a solution to the problem. > IMHO the wiki migration is > not the first case where Freenet work has stalled waiting for a > consensus that will not appear about some decision. I agree, it is far better just to go and do it, if you wait for permission from everyone it will never happen. > Attacking > proposed solutions, especially ones people are already working on, is > a way to make that happen more often, not less. I'm not attacking anything or anyone, I was pointing out a problem. Reporting bugs is helpful, its not attacking anything. This is why we ask users to report bugs, not yell at them for it. > Frequently, an > imperfect decision is better than no decision I agree, but its not "attacking" to point out those imperfections so that they can be corrected. > rather than spending > a lot of time figuring out how to best solve the problem, infinity0 > and I simply started solving it. > And I'm glad you did, I really think you are overreacting here - all I did was report a problem (while expressing some frustration with sourceforge who really should have learned how to build a usable website by now, they've been around long enough). Perhaps you felt that my frustration was directed at you rather than sourceforge, this was not my intention. Ian. -- Ian Clarke CEO, SenseArray Email: ian at sensearray.com Ph: +1 512 422 3588 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/devl/attachments/20100104/e996f6fa/attachment.html>
