On Mar 10, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Luke R. wrote:
> I would tend to side with the ones who said we need both. HTTPS default, HTTP 
> still available for those in need of it. The reason is because countries and 
> most definitely some wifi hotspots in my experience block HTTPS entirely. 
> Also some mobile browsers do not allow HTTPS (sadly!). 
> 
> A user may be able to use an HTTP proxy in his/her country to get access to 
> the blocked domain via HTTP (unless the http proxy also supports HTTPS? then 
> this may not be needed). In such cases MD5 hash checks would be very 
> important, as well as the non-anonymity in downloading the binary in the 
> first place could place a person at risk... but at least they would be able 
> to download it.
> 
> Regarding the HTTPS certificate errors, continued development of this FF 
> extension may prove helpful: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~perspectives/

Just thought I'd mention that cs.cmu.edu/~perspectives redirects to 
www.networknotary.org which appears to be down. A quick web search brought me 
to www.perspectives-project.org which appears to be the new site. The project 
looks very interesting, but IMO it won't make much of a difference until/unless 
it's bundled with the browser.

I agree that in lieu of HTTPS, MD5/SHA hashes would be very useful. As well, 
Any automated update tool should also download a hash and check it before using 
the update (not sure if that happens now). 
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