As far as Perspectives, there is also http://convergence.io/ by Moxie
Marlinspike.

On 03/10/2012 01:39 PM, Daxter wrote:
> On Mar 10, 2012, at 12:19 PM, Luke R. wrote:
>> I would tend to side with the ones who said we need both. HTTPS default, 
>> HTTP still available for those in need of it. The reason is because 
>> countries and most definitely some wifi hotspots in my experience block 
>> HTTPS entirely. Also some mobile browsers do not allow HTTPS (sadly!). 
>>
>> A user may be able to use an HTTP proxy in his/her country to get access to 
>> the blocked domain via HTTP (unless the http proxy also supports HTTPS? then 
>> this may not be needed). In such cases MD5 hash checks would be very 
>> important, as well as the non-anonymity in downloading the binary in the 
>> first place could place a person at risk... but at least they would be able 
>> to download it.
>>
>> Regarding the HTTPS certificate errors, continued development of this FF 
>> extension may prove helpful: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~perspectives/
> 
> Just thought I'd mention that cs.cmu.edu/~perspectives redirects to 
> www.networknotary.org which appears to be down. A quick web search brought me 
> to www.perspectives-project.org which appears to be the new site. The project 
> looks very interesting, but IMO it won't make much of a difference 
> until/unless it's bundled with the browser.
> 
> I agree that in lieu of HTTPS, MD5/SHA hashes would be very useful. As well, 
> Any automated update tool should also download a hash and check it before 
> using the update (not sure if that happens now). 
> 
> 
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