gotta ask since i don't grasp enough of the freenet protocol yet -
is there not some way that having collected packets for a while
a node can _investigate_ the local network 'weather' ?  and then
make more informed decisions ?  punknet gives nodes ways to
tracelessly verify some of the routing information they receive,
i imagine this is also possible in freenet, but i simply don't
know yet.

jon

> 
> 
> 
> Brandon wrote...
> >
> >
> > > I had a mad idea (feel free to point and laugh...)
> >
> > I think this is a great idea, or at least some variant thereof.
> >
> > I'm not so sure about fuse=0 causing Tit-for-Tat. It won't be quite so
> > clear cut as that. You can't just say that if you send a message to a
> > request to a node and the request fails that the node is misbehaving. The
> > request might be for something not in the network or not in the specified
> > HTL. It might have been dropped out of the network because there was a
> > flood of information, or it was unpopular, or because the node was
> > leeching, or because the node was behaving well, but the nodes it was
> > connected to are leeching. You're lumping a lot of possibilities into a
> > single transaction.
> >
> > It's important to remember that you can never deal with a node by
> > itself. When you're dealing with a node, you're really dealing with the
> > part of the network reachable from that node in the given HTL.
> 
> I realise this - yes you don't want to refuse to reply on the basis of a
> single message and maybe a more sophisticated metric than the simple average
> would
> be better - I don't know too much about this. I did think though that you
> *could* hold a single node responsible for the behaviour of all nodes
> downstream of it in Freenet space. It's a bit like the teacher picking one
> poor kid in control of the class while the teacher is absent and threatening
> him alone with detention if there is a riot when the teacher gets back
> (he'll make sure they all stay quiet for his own sake :-) I'd hope that the
> effect might filter along. don't quite know how you'd do this tho
> 
> >
> > But we certainly could use some way to rank the usefulness of different
> > nodes/parts of the network and communicate more with those that are more
> > useful. The only way we're going to get Freenet to be ubiquitous is to
> > add some incentive (i.e. better service from the network) for running a
> > useful node.
> >
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