Hi,

On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 5:20 PM, Vincent Massol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Arpit,
>
> On Jun 4, 2008, at 1:25 PM, Arpit Jain wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> > I am working on creating a Presentation Application for Xwiki. Link:
> >
> http://code.google.com/soc/2008/xwiki/appinfo.html?csaid=27F450DE66682B26
> >
> > My work would mainly be focused on creating a web based GUI for
> > making the
> > slide-show presentation which would be displayed either in
> > S5<http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/s5/s5-intro.html>or
> > Slidy <http://www.w3.org/Talks/Tools/Slidy>.
> >
> > I have gone through the markup and structure of both S5 and Slidy
> > and I
> > think Slidy is better than S5(which would be clear to you also, once
> > you go
> > through the links above and check out the features available in
> > both). So
> > unless suggested otherwise, I would be using Slidy for displaying the
> > presentation. I would love your comments and suggestions on this.
>
> After a quick glance, it does indeed "seem" that Slidy might be better
> than S5 although that's not  a fully given since they seem to have the
> same features. I like the fact that slidy is backed by the W3C
> although it looks more like a one man-effort than a full-fledged
> project. I searched quickly and couldn't find activity information on
> these projects:
> * number of committers,
> * last commits
> * date of last releases
>
> Ideally we should choose a combination of the most active project +
> the project with the best future.
>

>
> All I can find about Slidy is dated 2006 which is worrying me a bit. I
> couldn't find a download page for it either.


Slidy's download link is mentioned in Slide No.
5<http://www.w3.org/Talks/Tools/Slidy/#%285%29>of its tutorial. You
can download it from
here <http://www.w3.org/Talks/Tools/Slidy/slidy.zip>. I know they should
have  placed it specifically somewhere else where it should have been easy
to locate.


> Regarding S5 seems like someone is continuing the work:
> http://www.netzgesta.de/S5/
>  (http://www.netzgesta.de/S5/download.php)
>
> Do you think you could find some activity information?
>
> To be honest right now I don't like any of these project  since:
> * they don't seem to have a community
> * I don't see bug trackers for them
> * I don't see SCM access to the sources
>
> Thus I'm not convinced about their futures so far. WDYT?


And yes, you are right.  I  also couldn't find any work going on in this
direction on both of these projects. For S5, there are few people who are
working independently and have developed few extensions as you mentioned.
They tried to collaborate the efforts at http://s5project.org/  but this one
is also not updated since 2006.
For Slidy, there has been no update. It's mentioned by Dave Raggett at few
places(including the Slidy tutorial) that he is working on a Wysywig editor
to create Slidy presentation. Image of the alpha version
here<http://www.w3.org/Talks/Tools/Slidy/editor/editor-screenshot1.png>.
But there has been no update on this one also.

I found couple of more similar projects on netzgesta's
site<http://www.netzgesta.de/S5/download.php>which are
Slideous <http://goessner.net/articles/slideous/> and
AJAX-S<http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/11/13/proudly-presenting-ajax-s/>but
they have the same problem of no contributions and updates.

I think Slidy and S5 are our best bet and we should choose one of them and
start working. And they contain most of the features that a "Simple"
presentation requires.
Also, both of them use similar markups, therefore, modifying the Slide
Generator code(which I would be writing) for the other one won't be that
difficult.
What say?

Other frameworks:
SlideML <http://slideml.bitflux.ch/> => Download link not working.

Thanks
- Arpit


>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
> > I plan to finalize the structure and markup to be used by the end of
> > this
> > weekend. Then I will start working on creating the GUI interface. I
> > would
> > finish most of the features of it like Slide creation, Slide
> > navigation,
> > Insert images/hyperlink, Bullets, Changing color etc. by first or
> > second
> > week of July. I will keep posting my updates here.
> >
> > Then I will work on other features like creating templates,
> > converting to
> > PDF, changing background/layout of slides. Some of these
> > functionalities are
> > not available in Slidy, so I would have to modify its code to
> > include them.
> >
> >
> > -Arpit Jain
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Vincent Massol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi GSOCers,
> >>
> >> The bonding period is over and today starts your GSOC project period.
> >> Note that this doesn't mean you should drop whatever JIRA issue you
> >> had assigned to yourself. Please continue to work on it and *finish*
> >> it. It's important.
> >>
> >> However it means that from today onwards you can start working on
> >> your
> >> project. The most important thing to do is send an email on the xwiki
> >> dev list explaining:
> >> * what architecture you're envisioning to use for your project. If
> >> you
> >> have doubts/questions please mention them.
> >> * A general planning breaking down the high level tasks you have to
> >> do
> >> and giving deadlines for each. That'll help you reach your objectives
> >> and in that manner we (the mentors and the community in general) can
> >> also help you by reviewing milestone objectives and helping you
> >> achieve them
> >> * what are your next steps and when you're planning to have them done
> >> * Any questions you have
> >>
> >> Please use the mailing list over IRC and especially over direct
> >> skype/
> >> chat. Again it's really important that you work with the community.
> >> The success of your SOC depends on that as much as finishing your
> >> project.
> >>
> >> Thanks, good luck and have fun!
> >> -Vincent on behalf of the XWiki mentors
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Arpit Jain
Senior Undergraduate Student
Department of Computer Science & Engineering
Indian Institute of Technology, Kharagpur, India.
Web: http://www.arpitjain.com
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