On Jun 5, 2008, at 4:35 PM, Arpit Jain wrote:

[snip]

>>>
>> After a quick glance, it does indeed "seem" that Slidy might be  
>> better
>> than S5 although that's not  a fully given since they seem to have  
>> the
>> same features. I like the fact that slidy is backed by the W3C
>> although it looks more like a one man-effort than a full-fledged
>> project. I searched quickly and couldn't find activity information on
>> these projects:
>> * number of committers,
>> * last commits
>> * date of last releases
>>
>> Ideally we should choose a combination of the most active project +
>> the project with the best future.
>>
>
>>
>> All I can find about Slidy is dated 2006 which is worrying me a  
>> bit. I
>> couldn't find a download page for it either.
>
>
> Slidy's download link is mentioned in Slide No.
> 5<http://www.w3.org/Talks/Tools/Slidy/#%285%29>of its tutorial. You
> can download it from
> here <http://www.w3.org/Talks/Tools/Slidy/slidy.zip>. I know they  
> should
> have  placed it specifically somewhere else where it should have  
> been easy
> to locate.

Pb is that we don't know what version it is and when it was released.  
This is really amateurish work... ;)

>> Regarding S5 seems like someone is continuing the work:
>> http://www.netzgesta.de/S5/
>> (http://www.netzgesta.de/S5/download.php)
>>
>> Do you think you could find some activity information?
>>
>> To be honest right now I don't like any of these project  since:
>> * they don't seem to have a community
>> * I don't see bug trackers for them
>> * I don't see SCM access to the sources
>>
>> Thus I'm not convinced about their futures so far. WDYT?
>
>
> And yes, you are right.  I  also couldn't find any work going on in  
> this
> direction on both of these projects. For S5, there are few people  
> who are
> working independently and have developed few extensions as you  
> mentioned.
> They tried to collaborate the efforts at http://s5project.org/  but  
> this one
> is also not updated since 2006.
> For Slidy, there has been no update. It's mentioned by Dave Raggett  
> at few
> places(including the Slidy tutorial) that he is working on a Wysywig  
> editor
> to create Slidy presentation. Image of the alpha version
> here<http://www.w3.org/Talks/Tools/Slidy/editor/editor- 
> screenshot1.png>.
> But there has been no update on this one also.
>
> I found couple of more similar projects on netzgesta's
> site<http://www.netzgesta.de/S5/download.php>which are
> Slideous <http://goessner.net/articles/slideous/> and
> AJAX-S<http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/11/13/proudly-presenting-ajax-s/ 
> >but
> they have the same problem of no contributions and updates.
>
> I think Slidy and S5 are our best bet and we should choose one of  
> them and
> start working. And they contain most of the features that a "Simple"
> presentation requires.
> Also, both of them use similar markups, therefore, modifying the Slide
> Generator code(which I would be writing) for the other one won't be  
> that
> difficult.
> What say?

Yes, we should have an interface to isolate us from either S5 or Slidy  
so that we don't don't have a single dependency on it in our code  
(beyond the interface implementation).

It would be cool if this interface could also be implemented using  
Google Presentation API for example.

Thanks
-Vincent

> Other frameworks:
> SlideML <http://slideml.bitflux.ch/> => Download link not working.
>
> Thanks
> - Arpit
>
>
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Vincent
>>
>>> I plan to finalize the structure and markup to be used by the end of
>>> this
>>> weekend. Then I will start working on creating the GUI interface. I
>>> would
>>> finish most of the features of it like Slide creation, Slide
>>> navigation,
>>> Insert images/hyperlink, Bullets, Changing color etc. by first or
>>> second
>>> week of July. I will keep posting my updates here.
>>>
>>> Then I will work on other features like creating templates,
>>> converting to
>>> PDF, changing background/layout of slides. Some of these
>>> functionalities are
>>> not available in Slidy, so I would have to modify its code to
>>> include them.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Arpit Jain
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Vincent Massol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi GSOCers,
>>>>
>>>> The bonding period is over and today starts your GSOC project  
>>>> period.
>>>> Note that this doesn't mean you should drop whatever JIRA issue you
>>>> had assigned to yourself. Please continue to work on it and  
>>>> *finish*
>>>> it. It's important.
>>>>
>>>> However it means that from today onwards you can start working on
>>>> your
>>>> project. The most important thing to do is send an email on the  
>>>> xwiki
>>>> dev list explaining:
>>>> * what architecture you're envisioning to use for your project. If
>>>> you
>>>> have doubts/questions please mention them.
>>>> * A general planning breaking down the high level tasks you have to
>>>> do
>>>> and giving deadlines for each. That'll help you reach your  
>>>> objectives
>>>> and in that manner we (the mentors and the community in general)  
>>>> can
>>>> also help you by reviewing milestone objectives and helping you
>>>> achieve them
>>>> * what are your next steps and when you're planning to have them  
>>>> done
>>>> * Any questions you have
>>>>
>>>> Please use the mailing list over IRC and especially over direct
>>>> skype/
>>>> chat. Again it's really important that you work with the community.
>>>> The success of your SOC depends on that as much as finishing your
>>>> project.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, good luck and have fun!
>>>> -Vincent on behalf of the XWiki mentors
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