On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 8:12 PM, Vincent Massol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> On Jun 5, 2008, at 4:35 PM, Arpit Jain wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> >>>
> >> After a quick glance, it does indeed "seem" that Slidy might be
> >> better
> >> than S5 although that's not  a fully given since they seem to have
> >> the
> >> same features. I like the fact that slidy is backed by the W3C
> >> although it looks more like a one man-effort than a full-fledged
> >> project. I searched quickly and couldn't find activity information on
> >> these projects:
> >> * number of committers,
> >> * last commits
> >> * date of last releases
> >>
> >> Ideally we should choose a combination of the most active project +
> >> the project with the best future.
> >>
> >
> >>
> >> All I can find about Slidy is dated 2006 which is worrying me a
> >> bit. I
> >> couldn't find a download page for it either.
> >
> >
> > Slidy's download link is mentioned in Slide No.
> > 5<http://www.w3.org/Talks/Tools/Slidy/#%285%29>of its tutorial. You
> > can download it from
> > here <http://www.w3.org/Talks/Tools/Slidy/slidy.zip>. I know they
> > should
> > have  placed it specifically somewhere else where it should have
> > been easy
> > to locate.
>
> Pb is that we don't know what version it is and when it was released.
> This is really amateurish work... ;)
>
> >> Regarding S5 seems like someone is continuing the work:
> >> http://www.netzgesta.de/S5/
> >> (http://www.netzgesta.de/S5/download.php)
> >>
> >> Do you think you could find some activity information?
> >>
> >> To be honest right now I don't like any of these project  since:
> >> * they don't seem to have a community
> >> * I don't see bug trackers for them
> >> * I don't see SCM access to the sources
> >>
> >> Thus I'm not convinced about their futures so far. WDYT?
> >
> >
> > And yes, you are right.  I  also couldn't find any work going on in
> > this
> > direction on both of these projects. For S5, there are few people
> > who are
> > working independently and have developed few extensions as you
> > mentioned.
> > They tried to collaborate the efforts at http://s5project.org/  but
> > this one
> > is also not updated since 2006.
> > For Slidy, there has been no update. It's mentioned by Dave Raggett
> > at few
> > places(including the Slidy tutorial) that he is working on a Wysywig
> > editor
> > to create Slidy presentation. Image of the alpha version
> > here<http://www.w3.org/Talks/Tools/Slidy/editor/editor-
> > screenshot1.png>.
> > But there has been no update on this one also.
> >
> > I found couple of more similar projects on netzgesta's
> > site<http://www.netzgesta.de/S5/download.php>which are
> > Slideous <http://goessner.net/articles/slideous/> and
> > AJAX-S<http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/11/13/proudly-presenting-ajax-s/
> > >but
> > they have the same problem of no contributions and updates.
> >
> > I think Slidy and S5 are our best bet and we should choose one of
> > them and
> > start working. And they contain most of the features that a "Simple"
> > presentation requires.
> > Also, both of them use similar markups, therefore, modifying the Slide
> > Generator code(which I would be writing) for the other one won't be
> > that
> > difficult.
> > What say?
>
> Yes, we should have an interface to isolate us from either S5 or Slidy
> so that we don't don't have a single dependency on it in our code
> (beyond the interface implementation).
>
> It would be cool if this interface could also be implemented using
> Google Presentation API for example.


I looked for Google Presentation API and I couldn't find them. Google have
APIs for spreadsheets and for Google Data in general, but I couldn't find
anything related to Presentation. Can you please help me on that?


>
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
> > Other frameworks:
> > SlideML <http://slideml.bitflux.ch/> => Download link not working.
> >
> > Thanks
> > - Arpit
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> -Vincent
> >>
> >>> I plan to finalize the structure and markup to be used by the end of
> >>> this
> >>> weekend. Then I will start working on creating the GUI interface. I
> >>> would
> >>> finish most of the features of it like Slide creation, Slide
> >>> navigation,
> >>> Insert images/hyperlink, Bullets, Changing color etc. by first or
> >>> second
> >>> week of July. I will keep posting my updates here.
> >>>
> >>> Then I will work on other features like creating templates,
> >>> converting to
> >>> PDF, changing background/layout of slides. Some of these
> >>> functionalities are
> >>> not available in Slidy, so I would have to modify its code to
> >>> include them.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -Arpit Jain
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Vincent Massol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi GSOCers,
> >>>>
> >>>> The bonding period is over and today starts your GSOC project
> >>>> period.
> >>>> Note that this doesn't mean you should drop whatever JIRA issue you
> >>>> had assigned to yourself. Please continue to work on it and
> >>>> *finish*
> >>>> it. It's important.
> >>>>
> >>>> However it means that from today onwards you can start working on
> >>>> your
> >>>> project. The most important thing to do is send an email on the
> >>>> xwiki
> >>>> dev list explaining:
> >>>> * what architecture you're envisioning to use for your project. If
> >>>> you
> >>>> have doubts/questions please mention them.
> >>>> * A general planning breaking down the high level tasks you have to
> >>>> do
> >>>> and giving deadlines for each. That'll help you reach your
> >>>> objectives
> >>>> and in that manner we (the mentors and the community in general)
> >>>> can
> >>>> also help you by reviewing milestone objectives and helping you
> >>>> achieve them
> >>>> * what are your next steps and when you're planning to have them
> >>>> done
> >>>> * Any questions you have
> >>>>
> >>>> Please use the mailing list over IRC and especially over direct
> >>>> skype/
> >>>> chat. Again it's really important that you work with the community.
> >>>> The success of your SOC depends on that as much as finishing your
> >>>> project.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks, good luck and have fun!
> >>>> -Vincent on behalf of the XWiki mentors
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Arpit Jain
Senior Undergraduate Student
Department of Computer Science & Engineering
Indian Institute of Technology, Kharagpur, India.
Web: http://www.arpitjain.com
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