On Jun 2, 2009, at 7:27 AM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:

> Vincent Massol wrote:
>> On May 31, 2009, at 9:54 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
>>
>>> Hello devs,
>>>
>>> I'd like to reorganize the document footer as depicted in
>>> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Mockups/DocumentFooter ,
>>> namely:
>>>
>>> 1: Tags will be displayed after the document content, as links to  
>>> tag
>>> pages, and not in an input element in the Information tab as they  
>>> are
>>> now. They are still editable in view mode by clicking an edit button
>>> available after the tags list.
>>
>> Shouldn't tags be more visible and displayed before the doc content
>> instead?
>
> I don't think this is a good idea. I've never seen any application
> giving tags more importance than the content itself (and considering
> that until recently tags were not displayed at all, putting them in  
> the
> footer is already a big improvement).

Here's an example:
http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Main/TWikiSuccessStories

That said I agree it's not a good idea. It just needs to be easy for  
someone to see the tags without having to scroll (like with a Show  
Tags menu entry).

>> If not, then I think we should add a "View/Edit tags" entry in the
>> action menu, same as what we have for comments, attachments, etc
>
> You mean the "Show" menu?

yes

>>> 2. The "Created by ... on ..." information about the document will  
>>> be
>>> displayed before "Last modified by...", under the document content,
>>> and
>>> not down in the page footer, where it seems ambiguous (seems to be
>>> referring to the whole wiki), nor in the Information tab.
>>
>> +1
>>
>>> 3. The "Information" tab becomes "Related documents", since it does
>>> not
>>> contain the tags and the creator anymore. The related documents are:
>>>   * parent (editable in view mode by the same mechanism as the tags)
>>>   * children
>>>   * included documents
>>>   * links and backlinks
>>
>> +1
>>
>>> 4. A new "Rights" tab is displayed for admins after "Related pages",
>>> basically providing the rights management UI.
>>
>> +1 although I don't think it's just for admins. It should be to  
>> anyone
>> having the rights to change the rights (ie edit rights). However it
>> should probably not be displayed in simple mode (only in advanced  
>> mode).
>
> Yes, that's what I meant.
>
>> Does it mean anything for the edit panel? Does it mean edit mode will
>> be only for editing the content, objects and class? Do we keep both?
>> (same question for the history and tags/parent).
>
> Hm, interesting you asked this. Actually this change was a step  
> towards
> a larger reorganization of the UI, with the final goal of eliminating
> the edit mode completely. But more on this later.
>
> Yes, this means that the rights edit mode will be removed from the  
> Edit
> menu and the edit mode panel.
> -- 
> Sergiu Dumitriu
> http://purl.org/net/sergiu/

Thanks
-Vincent

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