Hello,

see below

Vincent Massol wrote:
> On Jun 2, 2009, at 7:27 AM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
> 
>> Vincent Massol wrote:
>>> On May 31, 2009, at 9:54 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello devs,
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to reorganize the document footer as depicted in
>>>> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Mockups/DocumentFooter ,
>>>> namely:

I like the proposal, it looks good / feels right. Of course we'll have more 
things to comment after we'll see it working and use it, so go for it!

+1

>>>>
>>>> 1: Tags will be displayed after the document content, as links to  
>>>> tag
>>>> pages, and not in an input element in the Information tab as they  
>>>> are
>>>> now. They are still editable in view mode by clicking an edit button
>>>> available after the tags list.
>>> Shouldn't tags be more visible and displayed before the doc content
>>> instead?
>> I don't think this is a good idea. I've never seen any application
>> giving tags more importance than the content itself (and considering
>> that until recently tags were not displayed at all, putting them in  
>> the
>> footer is already a big improvement).
> 
> Here's an example:
> http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Main/TWikiSuccessStories
> 
> That said I agree it's not a good idea. It just needs to be easy for  
> someone to see the tags without having to scroll (like with a Show  
> Tags menu entry).

Actually, does a user need / want to see the tags? or they're just a way to 
make 
machines understand what a document is about, with little effort from humans 
(which create the content) and little effort from machines which don't need to 
NLP content.

I think a human user would rather know what a document is about from the title 
and first few lines. I don't think I would look for the tags if I had the 
actual 
content in front of my eyes. Maybe after reading, indeed.

Happy coding,
Anca

> 
>>> If not, then I think we should add a "View/Edit tags" entry in the
>>> action menu, same as what we have for comments, attachments, etc
>> You mean the "Show" menu?
> 
> yes
> 
>>>> 2. The "Created by ... on ..." information about the document will  
>>>> be
>>>> displayed before "Last modified by...", under the document content,
>>>> and
>>>> not down in the page footer, where it seems ambiguous (seems to be
>>>> referring to the whole wiki), nor in the Information tab.
>>> +1
>>>
>>>> 3. The "Information" tab becomes "Related documents", since it does
>>>> not
>>>> contain the tags and the creator anymore. The related documents are:
>>>>   * parent (editable in view mode by the same mechanism as the tags)
>>>>   * children
>>>>   * included documents
>>>>   * links and backlinks
>>> +1
>>>
>>>> 4. A new "Rights" tab is displayed for admins after "Related pages",
>>>> basically providing the rights management UI.
>>> +1 although I don't think it's just for admins. It should be to  
>>> anyone
>>> having the rights to change the rights (ie edit rights). However it
>>> should probably not be displayed in simple mode (only in advanced  
>>> mode).
>> Yes, that's what I meant.
>>
>>> Does it mean anything for the edit panel? Does it mean edit mode will
>>> be only for editing the content, objects and class? Do we keep both?
>>> (same question for the history and tags/parent).
>> Hm, interesting you asked this. Actually this change was a step  
>> towards
>> a larger reorganization of the UI, with the final goal of eliminating
>> the edit mode completely. But more on this later.
>>
>> Yes, this means that the rights edit mode will be removed from the  
>> Edit
>> menu and the edit mode panel.
>> -- 
>> Sergiu Dumitriu
>> http://purl.org/net/sergiu/
> 
> Thanks
> -Vincent
> 
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