On Sep 28, 2009, at 6:15 PM, Asiri Rathnayake wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
>> My suggestion was about file upload tab inside officeimporter wysiwyg
>>> dialog, which requires openoffice server to function.
>>
>> Yes, my question was: why have this tab enabled when the openoffice
>> server is not started?
>>
>
> Yes, we can either:
>
> 1. Completely hide the file upload tab if the openoffice server is not
> present.
>
> 2. Display a "teaser" message in the file upload tab saying "This
> functionality requires ....".
>
> I thought (2) was more consistent with what we are going to do for
> officeimporter application UI (display a message saying openoffice  
> server is
> not started etc.)

Well we're not doing this right now for the office importer UI.... I  
reported it in jira AFAIR.
Right now the top level menu entry is always present and if you click  
on it you have the form available to upload a file even if the server  
is not ready.

-Vincent

>
> Thanks.
>
> - Asiri
>
>
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Vincent
>>
>>>> Maybe we should not display the entries if the office server is not
>>>> started too.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think you are referring to officeimporter xwiki-ui behaviour, this
>>> we have
>>> voted and finalized.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> - Asiri
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> WDYT?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> -Vincent
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Asiri
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Guillaume
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> -Vincent
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thus I think the user doesn't have to know that the feature
>>>>>>>> exists
>>>>>>>> if the
>>>>>>>> administrator has not activated it. The question then becomes:
>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>> does the
>>>>>>>> administrator knows that the feature exists? I can see 2  
>>>>>>>> options:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Make the check be: "if the user isn't an admin & the server
>>>>>>>> isn't
>>>>>>>> running" so that admins know about the feature
>>>>>>>> - Keep the check as it is and assume that admins that want to
>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> OOo server work will find out how since it's an often requested
>>>>>>>> feature
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'd like to add a new behavior though (if it's not already  
>>>>>>>> done):
>>>>>>>>> - if the office importer app is not installed (we can test for
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> main office importer page availability) then the menu entry
>>>>>>>>> shouldn't
>>>>>>>>> appear.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The OOo app comes bundled by default with XE. It's always there
>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>> default.
>>>>>>>> This option doesn't solve the user expectation issue.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Guillaume
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