On 07/15/2010 10:55 AM, Marius Dumitru Florea wrote: > On 07/14/2010 06:27 PM, Ecaterina Valica wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 16:21, Ludovic Dubost<[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> This looks good. >>> >>> I have remarke though if this should be published on the incubator or on >>> xwiki.org directly. >>> My understanding is that the incubator is there for showing new >>> applications based on the latest version of XWiki (including milestones). >>> >>> Shouldn't design proposal and standards be published on dev.xwiki.org ? >>> >> >> Standards should be published on xwiki.org when they reach a final status >> and after a vote has been submitted. >> IMO everything that is final and can be used for documentation should be on >> xwiki.org. > > XWiki.org has a drafts section ( > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/ ) where we can put > proposals. Having proposals in two (maybe more?) places is not good. I'm > fine with moving all of them to incubator and keep only documentation > for implemented features on XWiki.org.
That + the fact that the incubator is not guaranteed to be stable, it can be down when you need it the most, even when trying to look at a proposal to vote for it, which is not good, let alone the cases when you're actually implementing these proposals and you need it. So in my opinion, all proposals that are to be implemented, we actually want them in, (therefore we vote for them), should be on xwiki.org, even if they will suffer modifications and adjustments until they reach final form. Also, the unstability may also refer to the content: what guarantees that nobody will write a little experiment application tomorrow which will delete or affect in any way these proposals? If you prefer, you can develop them on the incubator, but when they reach vote stage, imo, they should be on xwiki.org. > > Marius > >> >> On the other hand, I view incubator.myxwiki.org as a place where people can >> experiment and brainstorm. Lots of design proposal are not fully >> implemented, suffers changes or just remain at the proposal level, so they >> are not relevant for all the people. The partial implementation, missing thing, postponed implementations, or just proposals should be documented as such. It really depends on the purpose for which the proposal is made, but for example these standards (which we know for sure that we want to have, we just need to decide on how), the annotations UI, the new rights UI, etc, which we're sure we want, are relevant for everybody and should go on xwiki.org. >> >> Also a reason I prefer that design proposals stay on incubator is to reduce >> the noise on xwiki bot on IRC. A proposal suffers many variations and they >> could flood the bot. This is the same for any proposal, or documentation, or everything. To the limit anything can flood the IRC channel but this would only mean we need a new strategy for the bot :). Thanks, Anca >> >> Thanks, >> Caty >> >> >>> >>> Ludovic >>> >>> Le 14/07/10 13:40, Ecaterina Valica a écrit : >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> In order to assure the consistency of visual elements, we need to have >>>> some >>>> standards. There is already some work in progress at >>>> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Standards/ >>>> Things that mature and are final decided, will be added at >>>> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/UserExperience/ >>>> >>>> One of this proposed standards is "Items Hover State" >>>> Whenever we have multiples items displayed, the hovered item will be >>>> marked >>>> with $theme.highlightColor . >>>> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Standards/HoverStateItems >>>> >>>> We already cover this pattern in most of the cases, but there are still >>>> some >>>> inconsistencies: >>>> - comments: only the header is highlighted; >>>> - attachments, colorthemes are not highlighted at all; >>>> - trees and WYSIWYG elements have a different color (I don't know if we >>>> can >>>> change this to use the color themes variables); >>>> - maybe others? >>>> >>>> Having a stardard for this kind of things it will be easier to know what >>>> elements are out of order, and what needs to be fixed in order to assure >>>> the >>>> consistency. >>>> Please vote for "Items Hover State" >>>> >>>> Here's my +1 >>>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> devs mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
