On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 00:02, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <[email protected]>wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 17:09, Sergiu Dumitriu <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On 03/05/2011 03:18 PM, Denis Gervalle wrote: > > > +1, Great ! but... > > > > > > Should not the feedback form be also accessible without triggering a > > > download ? > > > I can imagine that you can want to came back to it later, and it will > > > trigger the download again, which is not expected. > > > > +1, not everybody that downloads the software wants to give feedback, > > but definitely not everybody that wants to give feedback started by > > downloading it. > > > > > If you remove all params - you are left with > http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Feedback Nice, why not do we put a link inside XWiki itself to this feedback page, with a params declaring which exact product we are in ? On the default Home Page, or in a default panels, or in the Admin application ? That could be more natural to download, try and finally provide feedback IMO. Denis > > > Thanks, > Caty > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 18:53, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > >> Hi, > > >> > > >> I've implemented the proposed version > > >> > > >> enterprise > > >> http://enterprise.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Download > > >> > > >> manager > > >> http://manager.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Download > > >> > > >> watch > > >> http://watch.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Download > > >> > > >> xeclipse > > >> http://xeclipse.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Download > > >> > > >> xoffice > > >> http://xoffice.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Download > > >> > > >> Please vote on this versions. > > >> > > >> This variant deprecates xwiki:Main.Download and will need also a > change > > in > > >> Panels.Download that will relate to the local Main.Download instead of > > the > > >> global xwiki: link. > > >> > > >> The feedback form is activated so we will receive the messages, but > > there > > >> is > > >> only one general form and the messages are redirected just to one > email > > >> address. Some developer needs to fix this in order for the companies > > >> checkbox to work. > > >> > > >> Thanks, > > >> Caty > > >> > > >> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 16:05, Vincent Massol<[email protected]> > > wrote: > > >> > > >>> Hi Caty, > > >>> > > >>> That's good to me. I believe it's a good first version that we can > tune > > >>> later on. > > >>> > > >>> I'm +1 to implement it like this for now. > > >>> > > >>> Thanks > > >>> -Vincent > > >>> > > >>> On Feb 16, 2011, at 5:40 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> Hi, > > >>>> > > >>>> *Design proposal:* > > >>>> > > >>> > > >> > > > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/XWikiOrgDownloadRedesign > > >>>> > > >>>> *Mockups:* > > >>>> XWiki Enterprise Manager Download Page > > >>>> > > >>> > > >> > > > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/XWikiOrgDownloadRedesign/manager.png > > >>>> > > >>>> XWiki Enterprise Download Page - Part 1 > > >>>> > > >>> > > >> > > > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/XWikiOrgDownloadRedesign/enterprisePart1.png > > >>>> > > >>>> XWiki Enterprise Download Page - Part 2 > > >>>> > > >>> > > >> > > > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/XWikiOrgDownloadRedesign/enterprisePart2.png > > >>>> > > >>>> Thanks, > > >>>> Caty > > >>>> > > >>>> P.S.* Prototypes* (with incubator style): > > >>>> > > >>> > > >> > > > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/XWikiOrgDownloadManager > > >>>> > > >>> > > >> > > > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/XWikiOrgDownloadEnterprise1 > > >>>> > > >>> > > >> > > > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/XWikiOrgDownloadEnterprise2 > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 12:17, Vincent Massol<[email protected]> > > >>> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> Hi everyone, > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Thanks for your feedback on my previous mail on this topic. I've > > >>> discussed > > >>>>> it more with Gregory and Emilie and here's what we'd like to > propose > > >>> now: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> * Add a Profesional Services heading on the download which would > > >> contain > > >>>>> ** Some text explaining about community support and linking to > > >>>>> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Support (which already > > >>> describes > > >>>>> community support) > > >>>>> ** A livetable containing companies offering professional services > > for > > >>>>> XWiki. The columns would be: > > >>>>> *** Logo > > >>>>> *** Company name > > >>>>> *** Number of active committers > > >>>>> *** Link to the correct anchor on the Support page ( > > >>>>> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Support) > > >>>>> ** The livetable would only show 3 entries > > >>>>> ** The livetable would be sorted by active committers by default > > >>>>> ** A text that explains how to add a new company to the list and > > which > > >>>>> would point to the Governance page ( > > >>>>> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/Governance) > > >>>>> > > >>>>> * We will remove the current XWiki SAS support link since that > > >>> information > > >>>>> will be moved to the livetable > > >>>>> > > >>>>> * Rework the download page so that when a download link is clicked, > > it > > >>>>> opens a new page containing the feedback questionnaire while the > > >>> download > > >>>>> happens > > >>>>> ** Note that for this to be technically possible I propose to > remove > > >> the > > >>>>> link to the OW2 mirrors and instead link to the only existing > mirror > > >>> (OW2 > > >>>>> seems to have only 1...). If not, we would need some code to > compute > > >>> which > > >>>>> OW2 mirror to use based on the location. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> * The feedback questionnaire page would contain the following: > > >>>>> ** The following questionnaire: > > >>>>> > > >>> > > >> > > > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/SatisfactionSurveyProducts(let'stunethequestionstogether) > > >>>>> ** The questionnaire would start with a first question asking to > > which > > >>>>> companies it should be sent to. We would list all companies > offering > > >>>>> professional support (using checkboxes) with a special text for the > > >> top > > >>> one > > >>>>> ("Top contributor") and in parenthesis listing the number of active > > >>>>> committers. For example: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> [ ] XWiki SAS - Top contributor with 15 active committers > > >>>>> [ ] Softec - 1 active committer > > >>>>> > > >>>>> ** A text explaining that it's optional and what the questionnaire > > >> will > > >>> be > > >>>>> used for, i.e. that > > >>>>> *** it will be published anonymously on xwiki.org to improve the > > >>> product > > >>>>> *** it will be sent to the companies for which the user has checked > > >> the > > >>> box > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> We've tried to design this proposal with taking 2 ideas into > account: > > >>>>> 1) that it's fair and that all companies can have a fair visibility > > >>>>> 2) that it's visible which companies contribute the most (to reward > > >>> their > > >>>>> contributions) > > >>>>> > > >>>>> WDYT? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Thanks > > >>>>> -Vincent > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Jan 10, 2011, at 11:02 AM, Vincent Massol wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> Hi devs and everyone, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Emilie has proposed the following content to be added to the > > Download > > >>>>> page (http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/Download): > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/TextDownload > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> The idea is twofold: > > >>>>>> 1) to get feedback about what people think about our software. > > >>>>>> 2) some people who download the XWiki software from xwiki.orgdon't > > >>> know > > >>>>> that XWiki SAS has a commercial offerings and could be interested > by > > >> it > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> The pros for the community are: > > >>>>>> 1) XWiki SAS will publish back the result of the feedback it > > receives > > >>>>> from the download form which will allow us to fine tune and improve > > >> the > > >>>>> software > > >>>>>> 2) XWiki SAS could get more business (from people who want to buy > > >>>>> support, dev work, hosting, etc) which will mean accrued budget for > > >>> paying > > >>>>> developers and resources to work on the XWiki project > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Note 1: the form would be of course optional > > >>>>>> Note 2: in the future I'd like to see a not for profit foundation > to > > >>>>> handle xwiki.org, the xwiki open source project, donations, etc. > > When > > >>> this > > >>>>> happens we could elect from member for the foundation and have the > > >>> feedback > > >>>>> form sent to that foundation for example, with members of the > > >> foundation > > >>>>> having access to the data (for example). > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> WDYT? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Thanks > > >>>>>> -Vincent Massol, acting as both CTO of XWiki SAS and XWiki open > > >> source > > >>>>> developer > > > > > > -- > > Sergiu Dumitriu > > http://purl.org/net/sergiu/ > > _______________________________________________ > > devs mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > -- Denis Gervalle SOFTEC sa - CEO eGuilde sarl - CTO _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
