Hi, I like the concept too. It should be fast to implement and shows users what they can achieve with the wiki.
Question: is it run for all users the first time they connect to the wiki? Guillaume On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 11:34, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <[email protected]>wrote: > On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 10:23, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi Caty and all, > > > > On May 27, 2011, at 4:41 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > As part of "The first 5 minutes experience with XWiki" project I want > to > > > propose a layered help/introduction wizard: > > > > > > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/XWiki5MinutesProposal1 > > > > It's very nice. The only question I'm asking myself is whether this is > > solving a real problem or not. > > > > We haven't done any user survey or usability lab test so I'm not sure we > > know what the real problems are when someone starts using XWiki. > > > > What we could imagine though is a 3 step process: > > 1) we do what we think will improve the getting started experience (what > > you've started) with our own knowledge > > 2) and then we do usability tests based on our improved solution > > 3) we refactor to meet the discoveries done in step 2 > > > > Side note: I remember reading good advice in "Don't make me think" about > > usability tests. > > > > WDYT? Is that the approach we'd like to take? It seems a sensible one to > me > > since I'm not sure it would bring much to do usability tests with the > > current XE since we know some of its shortcomings already so better fix > > those before that test. > > > > Second remark; your proposal is not touching at any of the existing > things > > (which btw makes it all the more easy to implement which is nice :)). I'm > > just wondering whether we shouldn't also improve underlying stuff. For > > example the welcome message doesn't seem very good to me. Another idea is > to > > make it more clear to users that the home page is a dashboard that they > can > > edit as a personal dashboard for example. A third idea is to have a help > > system in place. Maybe those are things you're planning to tackle just > > after? > > > > > Hi Vincent, > > First of all "XWiki in 5 minutes" is a very broad subject: you can think of > lots of things when you say the name. > We have a specification page at > > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/XWiki5minutesExperienceMostCommonActionsAndIssues > where we suppose to list shortcomings we already know about. Would be very > nice to add more ideas on that list. > > Among the listed issues there was the need to understand how things work > and > what features you have at your disposal. This proposal is about that need, > having a layered help wizard system that can guide the user in his first > minutes. Is not the whole solution, but is a part of it. > > Regarding usability tests: in a distributed - open source community is kind > of hard to do usability tests because you're suppose to be in the room with > the person and observe his interactions with the product. The alternative > we > have is to receive mostly written feedback or surveys: about the > experience, > about the problems. I agree we can improve in this area and again I'm > asking > people to respond to the mail thread > http://xwiki.markmail.org/thread/vcx45otjgjpaca6a > > Thanks, > Caty > > WDYT? > > > > Thanks > > -Vincent > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > devs mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
