On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Nov 22, 2011, at 9:11 PM, Eduard Moraru wrote:
>
>> Hi Vincent,
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi devs,
>>>
>>> Since Eduard has developed the workspaces module (see
>>> http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Workspace+Application)
>>> I'd like to push for using it in our XEM distribution.
>>>
>>> However there are 2 valid uses cases that exist:
>>> 1) Using XE + workspaces, for creating workspaces (technically each
>>> workspace being a wiki)
>>> 2) Using XE as a wiki farm
>>>
>>> I think that use case 1) is the main use case for most people and this
>>> vote is about keeping the XEM packaging/branding but repurposing so that
>>> XEM implements use case 1). Use case 2) exists but it's less frequent and
>>> for more technically advanced users.
>>>
>>> So here's my proposal (and what you should vote on):
>>>
>>> A) XEM = app manager module + wiki manager module + workspaces module(s).
>>> XEM home page becomes the workspaces app home page. We update
>>> manager.xwiki.org to align it with the fact that it now boasts the
>>> workspaces features.
>>> B) On http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Virtualizationwe 
>>> keep documenting how to transform XE into a wiki farm
>>>
>> C) We create an application in xwiki-platform-core/ that contains the
>>> current pages located in XEM (home page + the other pages). We could call
>>> it xwiki-platform-multiwiki
>>>
>>
>> The pages that are strictly related to XEM can be found at
>> https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-manager/tree/master/xwiki-manager-ui/src/main/resources
>>
>> There, you have:
>> * Main.WebHome -> main wiki home with a couple of words about XEM and a
>> listing of current wikis
>
> AFAIR there was "dashboard" on the home page: wikis you view, wikis you own, 
> wikis you administrate, recent wikis.

The page itself just include widgets which are in wiki manager.

>
>> * XemManager.Install -> Install page for a wiki template. This page is
>> supposed to have automatically the latest XE xar attached to it. This was
>> working when it was part of the XEM product, but if we plan to put it into
>> platform, we need to let the admin upload the XE xar (or any other xar that
>> (s)he wishes to use for the template), just like we did for workspaces.
>> * Panels.QuickLinks -> Override of the standard quick links panel that
>> contains an extra link to the wiki manager if the current user is an admin
>> * XemResources.* -> Translations page with 7 keys strictly related to the
>> XemManager.Install page
>> * Xapp.XWikiApplicationXem -> Application descriptor for the application
>> manager. AFAIK, it's just a way to automatically register the above
>> translations.
>>
>> Now, knowing the above, does it make sense to name a platform package that
>> is supposed to contain the above pages "xwiki-platform-multiwiki" ? If
>> someone installs this package, they will not actually get multiwiki
>> capabilities, they will just get a new homepage.
>>
>> I think that the xwiki-platform-wiki-manager module (application) offers
>> everything needed for the 2) wiki farm use case and that, from the
>> platform's point of view (and maybe the user's as well), the proposed extra
>> xwiki-platform-multiwiki would bring no value. The only valuable item is
>> (maybe) the homepage, but I propose we drop all of the above and let users
>> use the wiki manager application.
>
> Good points, I agree. Makes a lot of sense.
>
> I'd then propose to include the XEM dashboard as the WebHome of WikiManager

I don't like it very much, WikiManager home page is an admin page to
manipulate wikis, this kind of dashboard would be useless for them
IMO.

>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
>> I`m +1 for everything else.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Eduard
>>
>>
>>> D) Users who want to install xwiki-platform-multiwiki easily will use the
>>> Extension Manager UI when it's ready for general consumption
>>> E) Users who want to install xwiki-platform-workspace easily will use the
>>> Extension Manager UI when it's ready for general consumption. At this point
>>> we'll decide if we want to drop the XEM distribution or keep both ways of
>>> installing it.
>>>
>>> Here'd my +1
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> -Vincent
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