On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Nov 23, 2011, at 8:42 PM, Thomas Mortagne wrote: > >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> On Nov 22, 2011, at 9:11 PM, Eduard Moraru wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Vincent, >>>> >>>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi devs, >>>>> >>>>> Since Eduard has developed the workspaces module (see >>>>> http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Workspace+Application) >>>>> I'd like to push for using it in our XEM distribution. >>>>> >>>>> However there are 2 valid uses cases that exist: >>>>> 1) Using XE + workspaces, for creating workspaces (technically each >>>>> workspace being a wiki) >>>>> 2) Using XE as a wiki farm >>>>> >>>>> I think that use case 1) is the main use case for most people and this >>>>> vote is about keeping the XEM packaging/branding but repurposing so that >>>>> XEM implements use case 1). Use case 2) exists but it's less frequent and >>>>> for more technically advanced users. >>>>> >>>>> So here's my proposal (and what you should vote on): >>>>> >>>>> A) XEM = app manager module + wiki manager module + workspaces module(s). >>>>> XEM home page becomes the workspaces app home page. We update >>>>> manager.xwiki.org to align it with the fact that it now boasts the >>>>> workspaces features. >>>>> B) On >>>>> http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Virtualizationwe keep >>>>> documenting how to transform XE into a wiki farm >>>>> >>>> C) We create an application in xwiki-platform-core/ that contains the >>>>> current pages located in XEM (home page + the other pages). We could call >>>>> it xwiki-platform-multiwiki >>>>> >>>> >>>> The pages that are strictly related to XEM can be found at >>>> https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-manager/tree/master/xwiki-manager-ui/src/main/resources >>>> >>>> There, you have: >>>> * Main.WebHome -> main wiki home with a couple of words about XEM and a >>>> listing of current wikis >>> >>> AFAIR there was "dashboard" on the home page: wikis you view, wikis you >>> own, wikis you administrate, recent wikis. >> >> The page itself just include widgets which are in wiki manager. >> >>> >>>> * XemManager.Install -> Install page for a wiki template. This page is >>>> supposed to have automatically the latest XE xar attached to it. This was >>>> working when it was part of the XEM product, but if we plan to put it into >>>> platform, we need to let the admin upload the XE xar (or any other xar that >>>> (s)he wishes to use for the template), just like we did for workspaces. >>>> * Panels.QuickLinks -> Override of the standard quick links panel that >>>> contains an extra link to the wiki manager if the current user is an admin >>>> * XemResources.* -> Translations page with 7 keys strictly related to the >>>> XemManager.Install page >>>> * Xapp.XWikiApplicationXem -> Application descriptor for the application >>>> manager. AFAIK, it's just a way to automatically register the above >>>> translations. >>>> >>>> Now, knowing the above, does it make sense to name a platform package that >>>> is supposed to contain the above pages "xwiki-platform-multiwiki" ? If >>>> someone installs this package, they will not actually get multiwiki >>>> capabilities, they will just get a new homepage. >>>> >>>> I think that the xwiki-platform-wiki-manager module (application) offers >>>> everything needed for the 2) wiki farm use case and that, from the >>>> platform's point of view (and maybe the user's as well), the proposed extra >>>> xwiki-platform-multiwiki would bring no value. The only valuable item is >>>> (maybe) the homepage, but I propose we drop all of the above and let users >>>> use the wiki manager application. >>> >>> Good points, I agree. Makes a lot of sense. >>> >>> I'd then propose to include the XEM dashboard as the WebHome of WikiManager >> >> I don't like it very much, WikiManager home page is an admin page to >> manipulate wikis, this kind of dashboard would be useless for them >> IMO. > > So you think we should just remove the dashboard? > > Or would you be ok to have the dashboard page in the wikimanager app but not > on the home page?
This could be a WikiManager.Dashboard page provided to anyone that would want to include it somewhere like in the main wiki home page. The best would probably be to rewrite the widgets to be supported by the new dashboard system but it's really not a priority. > > Thanks > -Vincent > >>> Thanks >>> -Vincent >>> >>>> I`m +1 for everything else. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Eduard >>>> >>>> >>>>> D) Users who want to install xwiki-platform-multiwiki easily will use the >>>>> Extension Manager UI when it's ready for general consumption >>>>> E) Users who want to install xwiki-platform-workspace easily will use the >>>>> Extension Manager UI when it's ready for general consumption. At this >>>>> point >>>>> we'll decide if we want to drop the XEM distribution or keep both ways of >>>>> installing it. >>>>> >>>>> Here'd my +1 >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> -Vincent > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > -- Thomas Mortagne _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
