On 10/23/2012 09:33 AM, Vincent Massol wrote:
On Oct 23, 2012, at 9:20 AM, Ludovic Dubost <[email protected]> wrote:
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Expéditeur: Ludovic Dubost <[email protected]> Date: 23 octobre 2012
09:19:55 UTC+02:00 Destinataire: XWiki Users <[email protected]>
Objet: Github tracker. was: Re: [xwiki-users] New Realtime
collaborative editing extension. Just a quick. You seem to introduce
a practice to use the github tracker instead of xwiki.org jira's Not
sure it's a good thing. I'm sure Vincent will agree
Well, what I would prefer personally is that contrib projects be in
the xwiki-contrib organization and use the XWiki tools (wiki, jira,
etc). The reason is that this allows: * to group together projects
around XWiki (they're not scattered everywhere on the web and harder
to find) * make it a neutral location for people to collaborate
together on xwiki projects. That's a key element to contribution IMO *
is more long term. If you stop working on the project it's not going
to be a dead project in someone's github repo and it'll have more
chance of being maintained/seen in the xwiki-contrib repo I know
Jerome also puts his contributions in his own github project and I had
the same reservation about it. We can't force anyone of course since
this is a contribution but it's more collaborative to make them
xwiki-contrib project, following the rules defined at
http://contrib.xwiki.org I understand you may want to beef up your
github profile but for collaboration I feel the xwiki-contrib is
better with the 2 arguments listed above. Jerome, Caleb let me know
what you think.
Hi Vincent,
This is a interesting topic and there are several aspects to it.
For me the "discoverability" argument for having projects on
https://github.com/xwiki-contribdoes not make much sense. The
centralized place for projects around XWiki is
http://extensions.xwiki.org, not github. There's the "view source"
button that tells where the sources are. Github is a convenience here,
and it's always possible to "copy" (or fork) a project in xwiki-contrib,
for whatever reason (original project not active, etc.).
That being said I understand why you think it's better to have as much
projects as possible under the xwiki-contrib umbrella : it makes it a
one-stop shop with the same tools, same workflow, same permissions, etc.
Here are the arguments I see for why one contributor or contributing
organization would want to host its projects itself :
- use of own tools and own workflow (github issues vs. JIRA for example).
- it allows a contributor or contributing organization to have it's own
place to centralize its contribution(s) (the "beef up" argument as you
say). I think this can make sense in some circonstances, especially for
contributing organizations (companies for example).
The bottom line comes down to : what rules do we want for using the
"org.xwiki.contrib" groupId and tools (maven repos, CI, etc.) ?
If we want a rule saying that the project should be hosted on
github.com/xwiki-contrib/ then that's that, and I think it's fair. We
just have to decide on it (right now there is no such rule according to
http://contrib.xwiki.org/).
Jerome
Thanks -Vincent
Ludovic Envoyé de mon iPhone Le 23 oct. 2012 à 04:17, Caleb James
DeLisle <[email protected]> a écrit :
One other thing, please report the features which you want and what
you imagine as best on the github tracker, it's easier to close an
issue as "won't fix" than it is to remember an important issue
which nobody wrote down ;) Thanks Caleb On 10/22/2012 10:14 PM,
Caleb James DeLisle wrote:
Hi, Thanks for the complement. I just updated it and fixed issue
#1. Thanks for reporting it. Somehow showing who else is editing,
showing where they are editing in the document and allowing the
user to spawn a chat window with other editors on the page are all
interesting possibilities. Right now I think the thing to do is
decide where there is the most bang for your buck in terms of
feature value and get an idea of what's most natural for the user.
Thanks, Caleb On 10/19/2012 07:59 AM, Ryszard Łach wrote:
Great work! It looks like good starting point to give xwiki the
main (at least for me) feature, that makes googledoc sometimes
more suitable for collaborative editing. It would be really
great, if your editor would show somehow, where the other editor
(person) is now, where is his cursor. Maybe a highlight (the
whole line) showing the other's cursor placement? Do you plan to
work on such improvements? R.
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