On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < [email protected]> wrote:
> Hi, > > I've finished moving the content from > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/WebHome and > http://incubator.myxwiki.org (Improvements, Standards, Tech, Mockups > spaces) to the new wiki > http://design.xwiki.org/ Woohoo :) Nice progress from before, well done! Some quick comments: * Is it possible to remove the centered thing and do the same as on other subwikis of xwiki.org? (consistency!) * It's a real pity that you seem to have lost the history and thus creation date/author and last modified date/author since ideally the LT should be filtered by latest proposal first (as for the Extensions of e.x.o). * I think you've been a bit overzeleaous in changing states of proposals... going to try to fix some. At least that's a good way to reset everything :) * "Active" vs "Dormant" is too hard IMO. What's the criteria? For example http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/APM Nobody is working actively but it's something I believe we need and it's still valid. What about http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/AlternateURLScheme I'm working on it, once every 4 months. I think these 2 states are too hard to maintain because nobody is going to move them from Active to Dormant. I'd suggest we replace both "Active" and "Dormant" by "Open" because I don't think we need to separate them. "Open" should list all designs about things that we wish to do. Those that we don't want to do should be in "Dropped". WDYT? * Is http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/CAPTCHAIntegration#Historyreally "Dropped"? Shouldn't it be "Completed"? * I don't understand how you categorize designs and how you link them together, for ex: http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/SearchLucene * I don't really understand why you consider "Design" to be about UI only... For ex http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/AlternateURLScheme is purely design and you categorized it as "Feature". I also don't understand what "Feature'" means. And why a proposal of "Design" cannot include requirements? Or is it just the "latest" stage it's in but that doesn't mean much in agile dev since the design and code work together and are cycling in small iterations... :) Thanks! -Vincent > > > Since I've been using scripts, the Participants and Status might not be > accurate since I marked most of them as Completed. Feel free to mark your > proposal accordingly and maybe even change the parent hierarchy if you find > your proposal in the wrong place. > > Thanks, > Caty > > > > On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Thomas Mortagne > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > *Short version* for voting: > > > *A*. Creation of a new wiki on xwiki.org farm that will hold > development > > > process details about a specific feature. This wiki will deprecate > > > dev.xwiki.org:Design and incubator.myxwiki.org > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > *B*. Vote on naming alternatives for this new wiki: > > > design.xwiki.org > > > incubator.xwiki.org > > > > +1 for design.xwiki.org > > -0 for incubator.xwiki.org, "incubator" means implementations waiting > > to be approved in some mainstream repository for me not design and > > architecture. It would make more sense used as the name of a github > > repository/organization associated to this wiki for example. > > > > > > > > *C*. UI on how a Proposal will be displayed in this new wiki (example > > > AppWithinMinutes): > > > > > > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/XWikiOrgDesignWiki > > > > Looks very nice. Same as Denis, it's very important that it's as easy > > as possible to use and not a constraint in order to actually be used. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------ > > > *Long version: * > > > > > > Right now development process activities are located in multiple > places: > > > - Analysis + Architecture: http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/ > > > - Analysis + User Interface: > > > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/ > > > - Other: http://xwiki.markmail.org/, http://jira.xwiki.org, chats, git > > > comments, etc. > > > > > > This process can be hard to optimize and information is hard to track > if > > > you are looking for specific information. > > > And the worst part of it is that is hard to automatize and lots of the > > > items need manual gathering or search. > > > > > > *Part A. * > > > This mail is about combining > > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/and > > > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/ work in a single place. > > > This has already been discussed several times before ( > > > http://xwiki.markmail.org/thread/kc32dufsf7nyyt6s and > > > http://xwiki.markmail.org/thread/izj6aiyodwqia4vl) and the vote was > > > favorable in this direction. > > > The proposal was to create a new wiki called design.xwiki.org that > will > > > contain the combined information and that will target developers. > > > > > > The new wiki will be used to gather only proposal's development process > > > information: requirements, architecture, solutions alternatives, user > > > interface variants, planning, etc. for a specific > > feature/idea/improvement. > > > After the proposal is implemented it will be properly documented in the > > > right location for users (ex platform.xwiki.org). > > > It is acceptable to have CSS + JS code on this wiki in order to > > demonstrate > > > the functionality of the proposals, but we should not add > > > experimental/dangerous code (groovy scripts, jars, etc.). For this case > > it > > > is advisable to use a test machine, share your own instance or use the > > > contrib.xwiki.org repository for hosting. > > > > > > The version upgrades will be handle by a community admin and the wiki > > > gardening by me. > > > > > > The data from incubator.myxwiki.org and dev.xwiki.org:Design will be > > moved > > > gradually after the new wiki is created. > > > > > > *Part B. * > > > You should state your opinion regarding which name is better for the > new > > > wiki: > > > - design.xwiki.org > > > - incubator.xwiki.org > > > - we accept other proposals. > > > > > > *Part C.* > > > I've made a proposal on how a proposal page would look like: > > > > > > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/XWikiOrgDesignWiki > > > > > > The proposal page will gather all the information related to it, making > > it > > > easier to track it's progress. > > > > > > The entries will be separated depending on 4 categories: Analysis, > > > Architecture, User Interface and Implementation, each category having > > it's > > > own status, participants, jiras and timeframe. > > > Categories are not mandatory for all proposals, smaller proposals will > > have > > > just the related pages for certain areas. > > > Each proposal will store it's data in a dedicated space. > > > > > > The implementation of the proposal will be handled by me. > > > > > > Let me know what you think. > > > Thanks, > > > Caty > > > _______________________________________________ > > > devs mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Thomas Mortagne > > _______________________________________________ > > devs mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
