On 21 Aug 2014 at 10:57:36, Guillaume Louis-Marie Delhumeau 
([email protected](mailto:[email protected])) wrote:

> Hi
>  
> 2014-08-21 9:58 GMT+02:00 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) :
>  
> > Hi,
> >
> > First of all we need to decide how prominent we want this functionality to
> > be.
> > I would make it more transparent, since theoretically you should change
> > your language preference just once (in the Administration, and per user)
> > and all the pages should be displayed according to that preference. This is
> > not something that need to be highly visible and that you would change
> > every day.
>  
>  
> It's not true on a public wiki (like Wikipedia).

That’s a good point, we need to agree which skin we’re discussing. AFAIK we’re 
discussing Flamingo which is NOT a public web site skin. When we do a public 
web site skin we would need to take this into consideration indeed.

Thanks
-Vincent

> > IMO it's more important to be better displayed when you want to
> > create a new translation, than when you read one.
> >
> > Regarding the flag to represent languages you can read this comment with
> > additional information about why we wouldn't do it like that
> >
> > http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-9512?focusedCommentId=77895&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-77895
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Caty
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Denis Gervalle wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Cathy,
> > >
> > > 2.1.1 is the one I prefer, 2.1.2 is also good but the separation between
> > > language should be more clear, and it is less easy to see the active
> > one. I
> > > have no fear about the scaling issue, even heavily multilingual site like
> > > those of the European Commission use such enumeration without issue. And
> > as
> > > Guillaume said, it is really rare to have more than a few languages
> > anyway.
> > > Other proposal implies multiple click/touch for the same purpose, which
> > is
> > > bad IMO for content. It is also important to only display effectively
> > > available languages, but with an enum, it could be also good to have the
> > > option to also display unavailable one greyed, so language keep their
> > > location on screen.
> > >
> > > Regarding the UI language, 1.1 is fine, but maybe a bit large. Having
> > only
> > > initial in the bar would be better IMO. Having also a more fancy
> > solution,
> > > like what I have done with bluebird (see http://softec.lu), could be
> > nice
> > > to have as well... or a easy way to customize it that way with an
> > > extension.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 5:34 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
> > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi devs,
> > > >
> > > > We have http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-10745 (Improve the display
> > of
> > > > available languages in Flamingo) which is related to
> > > > http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-6402 (Separate Interface language
> > and
> > > > page language settings)
> > > >
> > > > While in Flamingo we could just make the language links look better,
> > > > without changing the functionality, for the future, the separation is
> > > > something we might want to tackle, that's why I've created this
> > proposal
> > > > page
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/InterfaceAndContentLanguageSeparation
> > > >
> > > > I am interested in what you think about the variants.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Caty

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