Very interesting reflexion.  See my comments below.

On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 10:04:02AM +0200, [email protected] wrote:
> Hi devs,
> 
> I’ve had a few persons tell me that they don’t like the small arrow in the 
> top level menu in Flamingo. It seems they either don’t understand the little 
> triangles and what it’s about (submenu?) or they click on the menu itself and 
> go to another page when they were expecting some menu to drop down, or...
> 
> In addition we’re still missing a solution to easily navigate the wiki from 
> any page (there’s the ctrl+G solution but this is more like a shortcut to 
> know and we need something more).
> 
> So here are some ideas:
> 
> * For the top level menu, make it simpler by having the drop down display 
> when you click anywhere in the menu (the whole width of it) and only navigate 
> when you double click (there are actually few reasons to need to navigate 
> with the other idea below so we could also not do the double click thing)
> 
> * In the breadcrumb OR in the top level menu OR in both (to be decided) use 
> something like this (screenshot taken from IntelliJ IDEA):
> https://www.evernote.com/shard/s119/sh/20e99ab3-2991-4aa8-a7b5-93088aad4944/aa6d10a258c9c4c7c69ede4fd45a1254
> 
> This means when you click at a given level you get to see all sibling 
> elements in the wiki for element you’re currently on (document, space, wiki).
> 
> For example clicking on the “Home” wiki would show:
> - A filter box allowing you to type and it would auto suggest as you type, 
> completing with wiki names
> - An icon would be displayed on the left (or on the right) of the filter box 
> and if you click on it you’ll go the index page (Wiki Index in this case)
> - A list of the first 10 wikis (an improvement would be to list first the 
> wiki that you’ve last navigated to)
> 
> Same would apply for spaces and pages.
> 
> We could even imagine that when you’re on a user profile page, clicking on it 
> would display other user pages and the filter would filter on user pages. 
> Actually we could imagine to when the current page has XObjects in it, it 
> would be possible to list all other pages in the wiki having the same XClass. 
> And if there are several XObjects, then somehow in the UI allow selecting 
> which one to consider as the filter criteria.
> 
> * Note 1: The breadcrumb is currently not displayed on all pages (it’s not on 
> the home page for example) and thus if we implement this idea in the 
> breadcrumb only then there’s no solution for navigating on the home page.
> 
> * Note 2: If we were to implement this idea on the top level menu, then we 
> still need to display the actions too. Several options:
> - a) Display the actions first and the navigation list after separated by a 
> -----
> - b) Have a first entry in the drop down that says “Actions...” and when you 
> move the mouse over it a secondary menu with all actions are displayed. Note 
> that the alternative is possible too: Display the actions and have a “Go 
> to..." menu entry. We would just need to choose to display what we think is 
> the most used default (actions or navigation)
> 
> WDYT?
> 
> Personally I would do this:
> - implement this idea for the breadcrumb
I like this idea of IntelliJ IDEA.  With a filter, I think this would be a nice
a solution.  2 small cons however (but I think they can be improved):
- No breadcrumb on each page.  You mentionned it for home page, it's also the
  case in edit mode I think (sometimes, I like opening another tab from edit
  mode, I don't know if I'm the only one)
- In one of our project, people told us they don't "see" breadcrumb.  And
  indeed, it's not as much highlighted than the top level menu.  However, I talk
  about the Colibri skin and in my opinion, the visibility of the breadcrumb has
  been improved in Flamingo (but still discrete which is good for the use but
  may be a problem if it becomes a major way of navigation).
> - add “Go to wiki...”, “Go to space...", “Go to page..." menu entries in the 
> Wiki/Space/Page top level menus
This could be a nice solution instead of double-click.
> - expand the menu selection to the whole width for displaying the drop down 
> (and not just above the small arrow)
Indeed, I never has the problem between clicking on the big button or on the
triangle because I'm use to this kind of UI.  But in a way, my brain tells me
that this is not very intuitive.  Removing these triangles sounds like a good
idea.
> - either support double-click or simply add the possibility to navigate to 
> that element in the “Go to xxx...” submenu
I don't really like the idea of double-click since it's not a common action in a
web browser.
> 
> Thanks
> -Vincent
> 
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