Hi,

Summary of the current opinions:

[Options]
A: Caty, Eduard
C: +0 Eduard

[Position]
P3: Caty, GD
P4: JeanS, GD, Eduard

[Type]
T2: GD
T3: Caty, Eduard

Thanks,
Caty



On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Eduard Moraru <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> +1 for T3. It goes well with what we have now for the create action and it
> allows us enough room to do whatever we want and scale it.
>
> This means that I would also be +1 for option A (which is consistent with
> the new behavior of the edit button, i.e. no submenu for it like add X, add
> Y or edit inline, edit wiki, etc.). Just handle it in the create action/UI.
>
> This also means that I would be +1 for P4 in terms of position, to go with
> the general feeling that the actions in the top menu are not about the
> current page, even if the create action might suggest to create the new
> page as a child of the current one.
>
> Regarding wiki creation, the drawer would be a decent place for the wiki
> navigation and creation link (since they should not always be in your
> face), othwerise, worst case, fallback on option C wrt to submenus of the
> Add button.
>
> Thanks,
> Eduard
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 5:53 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Other opinions?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Caty
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau <
> > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Caty.
> > >>
> > >> For the iteration 1, the only issue I see is that the "Add" action is
> > >> located in the same place than actions related to the current
> document.
> > I
> > >> remember that we have a lot of discussions about this in Flamingo, to
> > >> finally decide to put it in the top menu. So maybe we could anticipate
> > >> this.
> > >>
> > >
> > > The main difference between what we have now and what was discussed in
> > the
> > > past is that the current global menu has all 3 types of entities (Wiki,
> > > Space, Page) and Add contained actions to create all these entities.
> > >
> > > We also had discussions about normal users that couldn't find easy
> Copy,
> > > Delete, because they looked in the More Actions zone.
> > > Before we had consistency reasons: we needed to have a generic way to
> > > Add/Delete a Wiki/Space/Page.
> > >
> > > Now if we simplify the mental model: we remove space and we separate
> the
> > > Wiki as a grouping/isolation entity, than we finally can move together
> > all
> > > the actions and consider Page to be an atomic entity.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> For the iteration 2, I like P3 (that you have recommended) and P4
> > (because
> > >> the add action is not located with the actions related to the current
> > >> doc).
> > >>
> > >> I think T2 is good and I don't think the extensibility is limited. You
> > can
> > >> add some scrollbars if a lot of options are shown, which will not be
> the
> > >> case most of the time.
> > >>
> > >
> > > When I mentioned the limited extensibility I haven't tough only about
> > what
> > > type option we can display, but also that we need space to:
> > > - enter Page Name
> > > - change Page Location
> > > - maybe display a Tree with the current Page Location
> > > - display Page types
> > > - other?
> > >
> > > T2 will need always another step to enter details.
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> T3 does not present how we create a new Wiki. I don't see it as an
> > >> alternative to T1 and T2.
> > >>
> > >
> > > It's an alternative only for the presentation / entering of Page
> > > Templates.
> > > The Create Wiki is similar to Create Page (just like the current
> > > implementation), but the activator is another button than the 'Add'
> > > (Page/Child)
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Anyway, I think we are going in the good direction to have a less
> > crowded
> > >> UI, and I definitively love it!
> > >>
> > >
> > > Thanks Guillaume,
> > > Caty
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 2015-06-22 19:23 GMT+02:00 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
> [email protected]
> > >:
> > >>
> > >> > Hi,
> > >> >
> > >> > With the introduction of Nested Documents and the removal of global
> > >> menu,
> > >> > we are confronted with the problem of moving and redefining the
> > content
> > >> of
> > >> > 'Add' action.
> > >> >
> > >> > The iteration experiments multiple possible alternatives of the
> 'Add'
> > >> > location and look, read more
> > >> > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/NestedAdd
> > >> >
> > >> > My recommendation is to:
> > >> > - Move the 'Add' (page/child) button inside the content area and
> > >> display it
> > >> > as a button;
> > >> > - Move the 'Add wiki' functionality inside Drawer + Wiki Index;
> > >> > - Select the page template from the dedicated create action page;
> > >> >
> > >> > Feedback is welcomed.
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks,
> > >> > Caty
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> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Guillaume Delhumeau ([email protected])
> > >> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
> > >> Committer on the XWiki.org project
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