Hello,

Thanks for this proposal, Caty!

In my opinion, for:

- *Iteration 1*: I think the main actions Edit and Add should be separated
somehow. There are too many actions inside one button.
-* Iteration 2*:
  ** Options*: A strong +1 for A and E
  * *Position*: +1 for P3 since the icons are really suggestive and I also
like the fact that the main actions (Edit and Add) are displayed separately
(I also would find interesting a combination between P4 and P5)
  ** Type*: T3 - the recommended one is also my choice

Thanks,
Gabriela

*Gabriela Smeria*
*Web Developer*
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skype: smeria.gabriela

On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Summary of the current opinions:
>
> [Options]
> A: Caty, Eduard
> C: +0 Eduard
>
> [Position]
> P3: Caty, GD
> P4: JeanS, GD, Eduard
>
> [Type]
> T2: GD
> T3: Caty, Eduard
>
> Thanks,
> Caty
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Eduard Moraru <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > +1 for T3. It goes well with what we have now for the create action and
> it
> > allows us enough room to do whatever we want and scale it.
> >
> > This means that I would also be +1 for option A (which is consistent with
> > the new behavior of the edit button, i.e. no submenu for it like add X,
> add
> > Y or edit inline, edit wiki, etc.). Just handle it in the create
> action/UI.
> >
> > This also means that I would be +1 for P4 in terms of position, to go
> with
> > the general feeling that the actions in the top menu are not about the
> > current page, even if the create action might suggest to create the new
> > page as a child of the current one.
> >
> > Regarding wiki creation, the drawer would be a decent place for the wiki
> > navigation and creation link (since they should not always be in your
> > face), othwerise, worst case, fallback on option C wrt to submenus of the
> > Add button.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Eduard
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 5:53 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Other opinions?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Caty
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
> > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie" Delhumeau <
> > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi Caty.
> > > >>
> > > >> For the iteration 1, the only issue I see is that the "Add" action
> is
> > > >> located in the same place than actions related to the current
> > document.
> > > I
> > > >> remember that we have a lot of discussions about this in Flamingo,
> to
> > > >> finally decide to put it in the top menu. So maybe we could
> anticipate
> > > >> this.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > The main difference between what we have now and what was discussed
> in
> > > the
> > > > past is that the current global menu has all 3 types of entities
> (Wiki,
> > > > Space, Page) and Add contained actions to create all these entities.
> > > >
> > > > We also had discussions about normal users that couldn't find easy
> > Copy,
> > > > Delete, because they looked in the More Actions zone.
> > > > Before we had consistency reasons: we needed to have a generic way to
> > > > Add/Delete a Wiki/Space/Page.
> > > >
> > > > Now if we simplify the mental model: we remove space and we separate
> > the
> > > > Wiki as a grouping/isolation entity, than we finally can move
> together
> > > all
> > > > the actions and consider Page to be an atomic entity.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> For the iteration 2, I like P3 (that you have recommended) and P4
> > > (because
> > > >> the add action is not located with the actions related to the
> current
> > > >> doc).
> > > >>
> > > >> I think T2 is good and I don't think the extensibility is limited.
> You
> > > can
> > > >> add some scrollbars if a lot of options are shown, which will not be
> > the
> > > >> case most of the time.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > When I mentioned the limited extensibility I haven't tough only about
> > > what
> > > > type option we can display, but also that we need space to:
> > > > - enter Page Name
> > > > - change Page Location
> > > > - maybe display a Tree with the current Page Location
> > > > - display Page types
> > > > - other?
> > > >
> > > > T2 will need always another step to enter details.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> T3 does not present how we create a new Wiki. I don't see it as an
> > > >> alternative to T1 and T2.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > It's an alternative only for the presentation / entering of Page
> > > > Templates.
> > > > The Create Wiki is similar to Create Page (just like the current
> > > > implementation), but the activator is another button than the 'Add'
> > > > (Page/Child)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> Anyway, I think we are going in the good direction to have a less
> > > crowded
> > > >> UI, and I definitively love it!
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Guillaume,
> > > > Caty
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks,
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> 2015-06-22 19:23 GMT+02:00 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
> > [email protected]
> > > >:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Hi,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > With the introduction of Nested Documents and the removal of
> global
> > > >> menu,
> > > >> > we are confronted with the problem of moving and redefining the
> > > content
> > > >> of
> > > >> > 'Add' action.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > The iteration experiments multiple possible alternatives of the
> > 'Add'
> > > >> > location and look, read more
> > > >> > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/NestedAdd
> > > >> >
> > > >> > My recommendation is to:
> > > >> > - Move the 'Add' (page/child) button inside the content area and
> > > >> display it
> > > >> > as a button;
> > > >> > - Move the 'Add wiki' functionality inside Drawer + Wiki Index;
> > > >> > - Select the page template from the dedicated create action page;
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Feedback is welcomed.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Thanks,
> > > >> > Caty
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> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Guillaume Delhumeau ([email protected])
> > > >> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
> > > >> Committer on the XWiki.org project
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