I indeed forgot about XWikiDocument#getId which move my vote to -1.

On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Sergiu Dumitriu <[email protected]> wrote:
> Agree with Vincent, and I'm actually -1 for changing it to "identifier".
> Internally, a document already has an identifier, the generated hash.
>
> On 08/25/2015 11:53 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>> You do realize that changing “page name” to “identifier” means introducing a 
>> new vocabulary and means
>> - changing lots of wiki pages on xwiki.org,
>> - changing APIs that will no longer be consistent, such as pageName in the 
>> REST model, getPageName() in create.js, etc
>> - changing all places in the UI where we use “page name"
>>
>> That’s a *huge* work...
>>
>> ATM I’m -0 and very close to -1 to change the vocabulary since we already 
>> have a lot to do with NS/ND.
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Vincent
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> With the latest changes to the create UI [1] we`ve changed (mostly
>> following the agreed-ish proposal [2]) the old "Page Name" label in the
>> create UI to "Identifier" because we believed that having both "Page Title"
>> and "Page Name" on the same page would confuse users and they would not
>> know which one to use.
>>
>> Now, I`d like your quick vote on which one to stick with, since some might
>> consider that "Page Name" is better.
>>
>> One argument for page name (i.e. against "identifier") is that an
>> "identifier" is usually globally unique and in our case this is only true
>> within the same parent. Also, copying a document to a new location and
>> preserving its "identifier" can feel a bit odd to some, since they would
>> expect the need for a new "identifier". Feel free to express your other
>> arguments.
>>
>> Another argument for identifier besides the one already mentioned is that
>> it also better reflects its "technical" nature and should "discourage"
>> users from working with it and they should be using the document's title
>> instead of their needs (both in the create step and further along).
>>
>> Here's my +1 for "identifier".
>>
>> WDYT?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Eduard
>>
>> ----------
>> [1] http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-12231
>> [2]
>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/NestedCreate/createTitle1.png
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