I'm not entirely against changing it to something else, but I can't find anything less restrictive/technical than "identifier" but more technical than "name". Does anybody have any suggestions?
Another alternative is to add hints in the form, explaining in more detail what is a title and what is a name. On 08/26/2015 06:54 AM, Eduard Moraru wrote: > We have 2.5 -1s for switching to "Identifier" so the conclusion is that > we`ll continue using "Page Name". > > Thanks for the votes and the arguments! > > -Eduard > > On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 11:47 AM, Thomas Mortagne <thomas.morta...@xwiki.com >> wrote: > >> I indeed forgot about XWikiDocument#getId which move my vote to -1. >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Sergiu Dumitriu <ser...@xwiki.com> >> wrote: >>> Agree with Vincent, and I'm actually -1 for changing it to "identifier". >>> Internally, a document already has an identifier, the generated hash. >>> >>> On 08/25/2015 11:53 AM, vinc...@massol.net wrote: >>>> You do realize that changing “page name” to “identifier” means >> introducing a new vocabulary and means >>>> - changing lots of wiki pages on xwiki.org, >>>> - changing APIs that will no longer be consistent, such as pageName in >> the REST model, getPageName() in create.js, etc >>>> - changing all places in the UI where we use “page name" >>>> >>>> That’s a *huge* work... >>>> >>>> ATM I’m -0 and very close to -1 to change the vocabulary since we >> already have a lot to do with NS/ND. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> -Vincent >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> With the latest changes to the create UI [1] we`ve changed (mostly >>>> following the agreed-ish proposal [2]) the old "Page Name" label in the >>>> create UI to "Identifier" because we believed that having both "Page >> Title" >>>> and "Page Name" on the same page would confuse users and they would not >>>> know which one to use. >>>> >>>> Now, I`d like your quick vote on which one to stick with, since some >> might >>>> consider that "Page Name" is better. >>>> >>>> One argument for page name (i.e. against "identifier") is that an >>>> "identifier" is usually globally unique and in our case this is only >> true >>>> within the same parent. Also, copying a document to a new location and >>>> preserving its "identifier" can feel a bit odd to some, since they would >>>> expect the need for a new "identifier". Feel free to express your other >>>> arguments. >>>> >>>> Another argument for identifier besides the one already mentioned is >> that >>>> it also better reflects its "technical" nature and should "discourage" >>>> users from working with it and they should be using the document's title >>>> instead of their needs (both in the create step and further along). >>>> >>>> Here's my +1 for "identifier". >>>> >>>> WDYT? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Eduard >>>> >>>> ---------- >>>> [1] http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-12231 >>>> [2] >>>> >> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/NestedCreate/createTitle1.png >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> devs mailing list >>>> devs@xwiki.org >>>> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> devs mailing list >>>> devs@xwiki.org >>>> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sergiu Dumitriu >>> http://purl.org/net/sergiu >>> _______________________________________________ >>> devs mailing list >>> devs@xwiki.org >>> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs >> >> >> >> -- >> Thomas Mortagne >> _______________________________________________ >> devs mailing list >> devs@xwiki.org >> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs >> > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > devs@xwiki.org > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
