We have 2.5 -1s for switching to "Identifier" so the conclusion is that we`ll continue using "Page Name".
Thanks for the votes and the arguments! -Eduard On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 11:47 AM, Thomas Mortagne <[email protected] > wrote: > I indeed forgot about XWikiDocument#getId which move my vote to -1. > > > On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Sergiu Dumitriu <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Agree with Vincent, and I'm actually -1 for changing it to "identifier". > > Internally, a document already has an identifier, the generated hash. > > > > On 08/25/2015 11:53 AM, [email protected] wrote: > >> You do realize that changing “page name” to “identifier” means > introducing a new vocabulary and means > >> - changing lots of wiki pages on xwiki.org, > >> - changing APIs that will no longer be consistent, such as pageName in > the REST model, getPageName() in create.js, etc > >> - changing all places in the UI where we use “page name" > >> > >> That’s a *huge* work... > >> > >> ATM I’m -0 and very close to -1 to change the vocabulary since we > already have a lot to do with NS/ND. > >> > >> Thanks > >> -Vincent > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> With the latest changes to the create UI [1] we`ve changed (mostly > >> following the agreed-ish proposal [2]) the old "Page Name" label in the > >> create UI to "Identifier" because we believed that having both "Page > Title" > >> and "Page Name" on the same page would confuse users and they would not > >> know which one to use. > >> > >> Now, I`d like your quick vote on which one to stick with, since some > might > >> consider that "Page Name" is better. > >> > >> One argument for page name (i.e. against "identifier") is that an > >> "identifier" is usually globally unique and in our case this is only > true > >> within the same parent. Also, copying a document to a new location and > >> preserving its "identifier" can feel a bit odd to some, since they would > >> expect the need for a new "identifier". Feel free to express your other > >> arguments. > >> > >> Another argument for identifier besides the one already mentioned is > that > >> it also better reflects its "technical" nature and should "discourage" > >> users from working with it and they should be using the document's title > >> instead of their needs (both in the create step and further along). > >> > >> Here's my +1 for "identifier". > >> > >> WDYT? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Eduard > >> > >> ---------- > >> [1] http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-12231 > >> [2] > >> > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/NestedCreate/createTitle1.png > >> _______________________________________________ > >> devs mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > >> _______________________________________________ > >> devs mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > >> > > > > > > -- > > Sergiu Dumitriu > > http://purl.org/net/sergiu > > _______________________________________________ > > devs mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > > > > -- > Thomas Mortagne > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
