Hi,

> On 08 Jun 2016, at 13:50, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Votes so far on layout:
> 1. +1 (Ludovic), +1 (Caleb)
> 2. +1 (GD), +1 (Marius), +1 (Vincent)

That’s not correct. I haven’t voted yet and I never said that the tree 
shouldn’t be there.

I just highlighted pros and cons of each :)

+1 to 1 because:
- This is the option that shows clearly the concept of page hierarchy to users
- Admins can then choose to keep it, only keep the AppBar (workgroup 
flavor-style) or only keep the Tree (documentation flavor-style)
- This is about the default flavor which is generic. When we introduce more 
flavors in the future, those flavors can favor a different panel organization 
depending what’s best for them

Thanks
-Vincent

> 3. +1 (GL)
> 
> After more discussions the vote swifted towards:
> 1. +1 (Ludovic), +1 (Caleb), +0 (Marius), +0 (Vincent)
> 2. +1 (GD), +1 (Marius), +1 (Vincent)
> 3. +1 (GL)
> 
> My preference goes to 2.
> 
> I vote for 2 since I believe that the Tree is already in the Breadcrumb,
> and the breadcrumb is introduced by the Tour.
> I vote for 2 since we have scalability issues that I believe they will pose
> some problems on the long run for the users.
> 
> The only advantage var 1 has is that it displays the tree from the start to
> the user. But after a time the user will be 'forced' to configure its wiki
> and remove it.
> Each time the user will install a new app, both the Appbar and the Tree
> will increase in size.
> 
> I like much more the classic AppBar navigation pattern and I think XWiki's
> greater strength is in applications.
> 
> We are lacking now multiple flavors that could showcase both the KB and
> Groupware cases, but if I were to choose a default, that would be
> Groupware.
> 
> So on V1 I will be +0, but definitely -1 on V3.
> 
> Votes so far:
> 1. +1 (Ludovic), +1 (Caleb), +0 (Marius), +0 (Vincent), +0 (Caty)
> 2. +1 (GD), +1 (Marius), +1 (Vincent), +1 (Caty)
> 3. +1 (GL), -1 (Caty)
> 
> Thanks,
> Caty
> 
> On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 12:09 PM, Caleb James DeLisle <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> I disagree with this point, as a user of web interfaces I don't care if
>> they look completely busted as long as I can make use of them, even if they
>> become unusable in 5% of the situations, that's 95% where I can use them.
>> 
>> Granted if we ship something that looks broken it's an embarassement but
>> if we ship something that a person cannot navigate then we don't even have
>> them complaining at us, they just become another silent non-adopter.
>> 
>> 
>> On 08/06/16 11:01, Marius Dumitru Florea wrote:
>> 
>>> So I think version (1) looks good but it doesn't scale with what we have
>>> right now. Thus I'm more in favour of solution (2), at least until we can
>>> resize the panel width.
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