I've created http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/TOUR-41 Mark Tour.WebHome and Tour instances as hidden http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/TOUR-42 Modify the Homepage Livetable to display Hidden pages
Thanks, Caty On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On 30 Jun 2016, at 12:55, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Tour - some problems: > > - Apparently making it hidden, makes it disappear from the Tour > Livetable; > > - Even if we mark the Homepage Tour as visible, in the Navigation panel > we > > still see Tour.WebHome > > > > So, we either: > > 1. make as hidden all Tour instances + homepage (in order to not see it > > from the Navigation panel) = in this case we consider the Tour app to be > a > > technical app (meant to help the user, but not user content) > > > > 2. leave them as is, but in this case, by default, users will see an > > additional space (Tour) + the Homepage Tour instance (which contains CSS > > selectors and steps) > > > > I would go with 1. > > I’d still make it hidden but just modify the Tour LT to display hidden > pages… We already do that elsewhere and it’s very easy to do. > > Thanks > -Vincent > > > Thanks, > > Caty > > > > On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > >> > >>> On 30 Jun 2016, at 11:33, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <[email protected] > > > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Questions about the Homepage Tour: > >>> A. Should the Homepage Tour page be hidden or not? (I would say hidden > - > >>> since it doesn't have content created by the user, it's some help to > get > >>> him started - he is able to dismiss it and not be bothered by it, so > nit > >>> sure why he should see it everytime in the Navigation panel) > >>> B. Should we display the Tours app in AppBar? (I would say no - we > tried > >> to > >>> limit to Blog/Dashboard/Sandbox which make sense for the end-user, but > >> Tour > >>> could be something interesting just for Admins). > >>> > >>> WDTY? > >> > >> A - hidden (displayed in the tour app LT) > >> B - No listed by default in the App panel > >> > >> Thanks > >> -Vincent > >> > >>> Caty > >>> > >>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 12:31 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < > >>> [email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Could be also xwiki-enterprise-ui-help/xwiki-enterprise-ui-help-tour > :) > >>>> but for now I'm ok with xwiki-enterprise-tours. We will add more > module > >>>> structure when/if we will need. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> Caty > >>>> > >>>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> On 30 Jun 2016, at 11:16, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < > >> [email protected]> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I would put it in xwiki-enterprise-ui-help (xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour > >> is > >>>>> a > >>>>>> solution too, although I would prefer to have a more generic module > >> that > >>>>>> could have Tips&Tricks, maybe some local documentation, etc.) In the > >>>>> future > >>>>>> we might add Tours for other use cases (like Managing Users, > >> Customizing > >>>>>> the Look&Feel, etc.) (and they are not really module dependent, > since > >>>>> they > >>>>>> could span multiple modules, Homepage tour for example showcases > >> Panels, > >>>>>> Web Templates, etc.) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> xwiki-enterprise-ui-mainwiki should have a dependency to > >>>>>> xwiki-entreprise-ui-help (or -tour). In the 'farm' case I think we > >> need > >>>>> to > >>>>>> provide a custom tour that emphases the isolation or particular > >> actions > >>>>> and > >>>>>> if we really want to put it in commons we need to particularly check > >> the > >>>>>> 'farm' case, since it would be annoying to have the tour launch > every > >>>>> time > >>>>>> you create a new subwiki. > >>>>>> I'm fine to put the dependency in xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons for > 8.2, > >>>>> but > >>>>>> we will need to fix it to cover the 'farm’. > >>>>> > >>>>> FTR I’m also fine with xwiki-enterprise-ui-help if the majority > thinks > >>>>> it’s better than xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour. Note that it makes a bit > >> harder > >>>>> to reuse in other flavors if it’s less specific (ie imagine that the > >> flavor > >>>>> wants only to reuse the tour and not other stuff). > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks > >>>>> -Vincent > >>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>> Caty > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Vincent Massol < > [email protected]> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 30 Jun 2016, at 10:29, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On 30 Jun 2016, at 10:16, Guillaume Delhumeau < > >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I would put it in xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour(s) so we can easily > >>>>> isolate > >>>>>>> it > >>>>>>>>> and other flavors can re-use it. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Indeed that’s a good point. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Actually, since the home page tour is not related to the home page > >>>>>>> content (correct?) and it’s just related to the skin, I think I > would > >>>>> even > >>>>>>> put it in platform in the Help module (or better, in a submodule of > >> the > >>>>>>> Help module: xwiki-platform-help-tour, and move xwiki-platform-help > >> as > >>>>>>> xwiki-platform-help-syntax). > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> WDYT? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hmm I retract this idea… The issue is that platform should not > have a > >>>>>>> dependency on the tour app even if it’s an indirect one. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> So +1 for xwiki-enterprise-ui-tour. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks > >>>>>>> -Vincent > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Thanks > >>>>>>>> -Vincent > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> 2016-06-30 9:45 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol <[email protected]>: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi Alex, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 28 Jun 2016, at 13:43, Alexandru Cotiuga < > >>>>>>> [email protected]> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> According to the new decided strategy in > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > http://markmail.org/search/?q=[xwiki-devs]+[VOTE]+New+Strategy+for+the+XWiki+Github+Organization > >>>>>>>>>> , > >>>>>>>>>>> third-party extensions can by bundled in XWiki Enterprise. In > >> some > >>>>>>> cases, > >>>>>>>>>>> we would need some content from those extension to be available > >> at > >>>>>>> build > >>>>>>>>>>> time. Where could we put it? > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Taking the Tour Application's example, which It is about to be > >>>>> added > >>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>> dependency management of xwiki-enterprise and inherited in > >>>>>>>>>>> > xwiki-enterprise/xwiki-enterprise-ui/xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons, > >>>>> we > >>>>>>>>>> could > >>>>>>>>>>> have the following options: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 1) xwiki-enterprise-ui-commons as a space Tours > >>>>>>>>>>> 2) xwiki-enterprise-ui-wiki as a space Tours > >>>>>>>>>>> 3) xwiki-enterprise-ui-mainwiki as a space Tours > >>>>>>>>>>> 4) in a new child module of xwiki-enterprise.ui (looks like > >> "help" > >>>>>>>>>> keyword > >>>>>>>>>>> would make sense: xwiki-enterprise-ui-help) which could be used > >> for > >>>>>>>>>> future > >>>>>>>>>>> cases > >>>>>>>>>>> 5) in a new child module of xwiki-enterprise-ui having a > specific > >>>>> name > >>>>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>>>> tours. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Indeed the Homepage tour should be part of the XE flavor. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> The question is: > >>>>>>>>>> Do we want the tour to start on each subwiki home page? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> My opinion: > >>>>>>>>>> * We should have the tour running on subwiki home pages only > when > >>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>> subwiki is an isolated wiki (ie not in the use case of > xwiki.org > >>>>> for > >>>>>>>>>> example but yes for the use case of myxwiki.org for example). > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> So if we say that the homepage should be present for both main > >> wiki > >>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>> subwiki (and only triggered in some cases for subwikis) then it > >>>>> makes > >>>>>>> sense > >>>>>>>>>> to have it in 1) (and not in 2) or 3)). > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> We could do 4) or 5) in the future if there’s a need but for now > >> I’d > >>>>>>> say > >>>>>>>>>> 1). > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks > >>>>>>>>>> -Vincent > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Could we decide a new rule for this topic? > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>>>>>> Alex > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > _______________________________________________ devs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
