On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 3:19 PM, Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net> wrote:

>
> > On 18 Apr 2017, at 13:54, Marius Dumitru Florea <
> mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 8:47 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
> > vali...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi devs,
> >>
> >> Some users have complained that the content actions are too abstract /
> >> ambiguous and they don't see/understand them so they don't know how to
> Edit
> >> or Create content in the first minutes of interaction.
> >>
> >> More details about this problem can be found at
> >> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/IdeaLabeledActions
> >>
> >> There I've suggested 2 possible proposals:
> >> Proposal 1: JS Tooltips
> >>
> >
> >
> >> Proposal 2: Labeled actions
> >>
> >
> > Forcing labeled actions for all the users may annoy the power users. Some
> > options:
> >
> > * make it configurable (from the user profile)
> > * show labels only for simple users
> > * show labels when accessibility mode is enabled from the user profile
>
> * modify the tour to make the user edit the home page (interactive tour),
> inviting him to click on the content actions buttons (at least the edit
> one).
>
> Proposal 3: Use Labels instead of Icons, as it’s done by wikipedia.
>
> Personally I don’t like proposal 2 or 3 and if they’re made configurable
> then it would be the same issue since we would need to pick a default and
> we would force regular xwiki users to have to change their settings which
> isn’t nice.
>
> Regarding simple vs advanced users, I’m not sure it’s the problem. I’ve
> experimented this over the week end (see my other mail) and the issue was
> locating this action bar and understanding it. But once it was understood
> it was very easy to use for the user and he actually liked that it wasn’t
> taking too much visual space.
>
>

> So I think it’s only a discoverability issue and not a regular usage issue.
>

I agree.


>
> Another option would be that when the user hovers over the action icons in
> the default content for Main.WebHome, (for example if he tries to click on
> them), that we would highlight the content menu very visibly or something
> like that.
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
> > Thanks,
> > Marius
> >
> >
> >> Which one do you prefer?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Caty
> >>
> >> P.S: This was a recurrent topic and we change several things over the
> >> years. I guess we will continue iterating until we reach the sweet spot
> :)
>
>

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